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25/8/2014 at 2:50pm
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We are currently looking to buy a 6 berth caravan. Does anybody know the difference between the Ranger, ,Pegasus and Olympus, or which has higher spec?
Many thanks
Matt

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Ranger is entry level, Pegasus is mid-range and Olympus is the top end.

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25/8/2014 at 3:33pm
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Thanks. Is there much difference between them? I can't find a website that outlines the variations.


25/8/2014 at 3:38pm
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They don't make the Ranger any longer. The other two the Pegasus and Olympus are made using the Alu-Tec body pioneered by Bailey.

Pegasus is mid range but at the moment there are such good offers on the Olympus which is the top of the range Bailey that its is a better bet to buy one of those.

Generally both ranges will have microwaves, dual fuel cookers and all the usual stuff. The Olympus will benefit from better upholstery, Alde wet heating and has a TV fitted as standard.

There's not that much to choose between them really more a case of choosing the layout that suits.

Bailey tend to favour micro sites for each of their model range so if you look up Pegasus and Olympus on the interwebbything you will be able to download a PDF file with the full details and spec of each so you can compare.

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25/8/2014 at 4:08pm
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Thanks, that's really helpful.


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25/8/2014 at 4:08pm
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Bailey has a web site or try caravan finder

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25/8/2014 at 4:26pm
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I thought the Bailey Range went Pursuit, Pegasus and then unicorn?

http://www.baileyofbristol.co.uk/


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I should really read the opening post properly lol!


25/8/2014 at 4:43pm
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Ranger is traditional wooden construction - and best avoided, imo.

The Olympus Series 1 was released just after the first Alutech 'Pagasus' and shared most of the Pegasus features - its distinguishing feature being a slightly narrower body than the Pegasus.

The Series 1 vans had some very nice touches - LED pelmet lights, door flyscreen, pleated blinds in a full frame surround, illuminated grab handles, high quality upholstery, etc - they were a full bells 'n' whistles package, presumably specced to attract buyers to the new Alutech concept.

The Mark 2 Olympus had a lower specification as cost cutting began to bite.

At that time Bailey also launched the Orion, which was noticeably inferior (again, imo) to the either of the Olympus series.

Realising that the Olympus (even in its down-specced Mark 2 form) was still too close to the Pegasus, Bailey dropped the Olympus and Orion models completely and replaced them with the 'Pursuit'

Although better in some respects (GRP outer skin, for instance) the Pursuit is an object lesson in cost cutting. The back cushions are ridiculously low, the overhead lockers have no catches on them (why????) all the concealed internal lighting has gone, as have the illuminated grab handles, as well as virtually every other feature that made the Olympus such a nice van        .                                                      

Bailey's aim is, presumably, to make the Pursuit so unattractive that prospective buyers would opt to spend
more and buy a Pegasus.

With Olympus models, the reverse was true - people chose Olympus (especially the Mark 1 series) because they had virtually all the specification of a Pegasus, but at a noticeably lower price.

Which is why the Olympus is no more ;)

As you mention the Ranger, I assume you're looking at second-hand vans. If so, the Olympus is definitely the van to go for.


25/8/2014 at 5:06pm
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Thanks, yes we are looking at second hand, around 2010 model.


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25/8/2014 at 6:32pm
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Pegasus is upmarket from Olympus.Early ones upto facelift had 7' 6"wide shell Olympus is 7' 2"as is current Peggy. Unicorn is now top.
Until 2010 range was Ranger Pageant and Senator

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25/8/2014 at 6:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by acesup1504 on 25/8/2014
I thought the Bailey Range went Pursuit, Pegasus and then unicorn?

http://www.baileyofbristol.co.uk/



You are right I had a senior moment and I always get olympus and Unicorn mixed up.

Aside from that my previous post held true.

Unicorn much better value than Pegasus imho


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Quote: Originally posted by matthew burns on 25/8/2014Thanks, yes we are looking at second hand, around 2010 model.



Then you'll be looking at an Olympus 546 if you want a six berth.

Triple bunks, plus a side dinette that can make another bed, all enclosed in a separate compartment with a sliding door

The bottom bunk can be lifted to provide storage space, if not required.

Downside is the relatively small wash/shower room located opposite the kitchen.

The only problems reported are some instances of water ingress via the front bottom seal. The front is part of the roof, and is bent down in one piece, and located into a plastic 'L' strip attached to the caravan floor.

It's fixed using bolts located under the floor at the front edge, and is supposed to sit on a bed of mastic before being bolted - but a few owners have found the mastic application rather sparing.

The two side lockers and centre gas lockers have moulded plastic trays screwed to the floor. These should be removed to check for water staining underneath. Some will be fine (clean untreated floor) some might show signs of water staining, and some that have already been in for rectification will have a black paint compound applied underneath the trays.

Actually, the 2010 models seem to be amongst the best Alutechs that Bailey have so far made - it was a new process, and they were very keen to get things right, so production was slower and more scrutinised. Certainly, most of the Alutech water ingress reports seem to apply to more recent vans - and one wonders whether there is a bit more speed and a bit less care taken in producing them now.

Apart from that (and it's all pretty minor stuff) the 546 is a great van - being the Series 1 it has all the extras - like the removable on-board water tank for winter use - that have gradually vanished from subsequent mo0dels due to Bailey cutting costs.

Perhaps the only real gripe is the lack of any blown air heating ducts at the back of the caravan.   



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25/8/2014 at 10:02pm
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i think you will find the Olympus and the pegasus are almost the same apart from the pegasus is 7ft6 wide and the
Olympus is 7ft2

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Sorry to disappoint. I bought a 2011 Pegasus Ancona from new. Towed well but fittings were cheap, many broke and heating packed up within weeks of purchase, and by its third service it was showing 90% damp in the bathroom. It wasn't a patch on my old Bailey Ranger. I would buy an older Bailey they are much better quality.

Read caravans in blackburn, however, are brilliant at after sales service. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. Nothing is too much trouble and their workmanship is top notch.


02/9/2014 at 11:43am
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Quote:

Although better in some respects (GRP outer skin, for instance) the Pursuit is an object lesson in cost cutting. The back cushions are ridiculously low, the overhead lockers have no catches on them (why????) all the concealed internal lighting has gone, as have the illuminated grab handles, as well as virtually every other feature that made the Olympus such a nice van.                                                     

Bailey's aim is, presumably, to make the Pursuit so unattractive that prospective buyers would opt to spend
more and buy a Pegasus.

With Olympus models, the reverse was true - people chose Olympus (especially the Mark 1 series) because they had virtually all the specification of a Pegasus, but at a noticeably lower price.




The Pegasus equivalent to my Pursuit is £4500 more, and weighs in 250kg more. However the payload is 50kg less. It is also a metre longer.

We've not had anything fall out of the overhead lockers yet, not sure where the problem is here.

£4500 is an awful lot to pay for illuminated grab handles. Didn't I hear that water got in through these anyway???

Plenty of good practical reasons there I think for buying a Pursuit.




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