We are updating early next year and are limited by the size of our drive 17ft 7" or 5.4m. Any model of Gobur will fit but new caravans are either a Lunar Ariva or Bailey Pursuit 400/2, not sure about second hand models and worried after being caught 3 times with damp in 2nd hand models. I've also been looking at Freedom caravans which have a long life but seem to have issues with lining coming down and might be a little bit too small. Any advice in general or from owners of the above or alternatives most welcome.
We have a pursuit 400-2 and are very pleased with it.
It looks small from outside but really does have a lot of room inside. I think the end washroom works really well and leaves the rest of the van as lovely open living space by day and by night.
Oddly enough we had a dandy designer before it, I see you have the destiny.
We have the platinum edition from chipping sodbury caravans which also includes the alko lock, solar panel, alko trailer control etc.
Minor problems or niggles include.
Spare wheel lies in the nearside bed box along with the battery box and consumer unit.
Right hand bed box is taken up with the boiler and the table. The space under the table is there but not easy to use. I have suggested they put the table on top of the spare wheel.
This means there's not much space for sleeping bags and pillows. We store the sleeping bags in the bottom of the wardrobe which works well and the pillows in left bed box. It does work OK but doesn't leave much wardrobe hanging space.
The fridge door won't quite open enough to allow the shelves to be re positioned. The door hits the end of the bed box.
Loads of storage but the 4 lockers at the lounge end do not have catches. They just spring shut so anything in them in transit will fall out. A shame. OK for clothes but we keep all ours in the wardrobe so would like to keep more kitchen items in them.
The lockers in the kitchen area both sides have normal locking catches on them.
We use the beds as singles. I'm 6'4" and sleep on the nearside one. It is a bit short but I manage OK and find the beds very comfy.
Kitchen, bathroom, heating etc all work very well. The kitchen has a lift up flap which gives plenty of workspace.
Towing is a dream.
I wanted a Gobur but my wife thinks they don't look very good. I like the fold down idea as I am only getting 28 or so MPG in our Peugeot Partner diesel. The dandy gave about 43. I get the feeling the gobur will be around 40.
Thanks for replies we will consider Eriba and xplore 302 , great information on the Pursuit I'm 6' 2" so good news on the bed , we have previously owned a Bailey Olympus 504 but had to store it 20 miles away bought from Lady Bailey cheaper than our local dealer who refused to price match. What's putting me off Gobur is the distance from Swansea to Norwich for purchase, servicing and repair and they cost more BUT should last longer, hand made , better mpg and cheaper insurance. I'm 60 this year we want to get it right as it might be our last, we have enjoyed the dandy but we want an easier life.
We made the move to a Gobur 3 years ago after 5 years with a folding camper. We waited some time for the right model as we wanted the 12' standard width with a toilet and all the extras.
This has been the right choice for us as it is kept on the drive under a window without blocking the light or upsetting any neighbours. Gobur's just last without the worry of any damp due to their design. Our's is a 1995 model, looks less than half its age, has not needed any repairs and a service can easily be completed by a mobile engineer.
The other good thing with the gobur is each panel apart from roof is individual so if there is a problem with a panel it is just taken off and replaced no faff with wallboard, insulation units etc
We have a standard caravan and the Gobur.
I do all the towing and love the folder because you can tow it in high winds without any problem, you don't feel it. I used to dread towing the big caravan in the wind. Our Gobur is a 1990 model and she is lovely with no damp. She has years left in her yet because they are so well made.
You do need to think about how much 'stuff' you want to take with you on holiday as the Gobur has less storage inside once everything is folded away. We leave dishes etc in the cupboards and put them under the seats but sun chairs, awning and luggage goes in the boot of the car. In the standard caravan we would leave the awning and sun chairs in the caravan and only have a few things in the boot. The same would apply in winter, you would need to store bigger items in the house rather than in the caravan. The kitchen in the Gobur won't have an oven or microwave which a standard caravan will. Comfort wise I think they are both the same.
I looked at the freedom twin sport, the biggest one with twin singles. I found it completely claustrophobic as the wardrobe comes right out into the middle of the van. The roof slopes down at each and giving inadequate head room. with the kitchen at the back that is a problem. I wouldn't be able to do the washing up for Mrs Navver Oh dear!
Without doubt the gobur will be much easier to store and tow if that is important. The conventional van will have all mod cons and more as well as more convenience and better looks.
We've just moved from a Dandy Destiny to a Fleurette Tamaris. We wanted a pop top so we could store it in our garage. There are several models of pop tops that would suit your needs.
Have only heard good things about the Gobur and looking at one this weekend. Meanwhile we have found someone in the trade who can inspect and advise us at £50 a pop. Might be worth your while finding someone in the trade who likes overtime. It's like having a valuation and they can also tell you if it's worth the price or how much extra you need to spend on it after the sale. So hope to have some good news this week. Out of all the folding caravans, the Gobur (up to 20 years old) is respected by those in the trade and may cost a little more secondhand because of their quality. The Esterels (can be over 30 years old) are also good but only if kept in great condition and you can usually tell. We don't need a shower room and it makes sense that the less water you keep out the caravan the better. And we normally go to sites with showers anyway.
Thanks Ifon we are going to visit Gobur this weekend to have a look at all the models and decide what's the best fit for us, although we won't be buying until early next year. I'm sure now that a Gobur will be the best option for us.
We started off with a Freedom Sunseeker. We only got rid because we now have grandson. For us 2, we found it fine. We chose that model as didnt want to lose space by having a bathroom . We had an awning which doubled the space, so was never a problem!
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