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02/4/2017 at 11:33pm
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Hi all

Moved our van up to thirsk end of of last year for change of scenery and have been eagerly awaiting for site to open, had a drive up today to get set up and our hook up lead wasn't long enough,

I have a spare in the front box and I coupled them together and it worked fine both 25 metre cable I probably need 40 metres but is it safe to just connect these 2 and save a few quid?

Not an issue I've had before and with connectors fitting snug not sure if I can get away with it

Thanks in advance

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02/4/2017 at 11:46pm
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Keep the power draw below 10amps to be safe and make sure any excess cable is not tightly coiled.



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03/4/2017 at 8:11am
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No problem connecting two cables together. However I would try to keep the "join" off the ground. Put it on a brick or something. Just in case it rains heavily and a puddle arrives.


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You can buy a cover for connecting two leads that clips over the two connectors keeping waterproof
http://www.homesteadcaravans.co.uk/accessory-shop/camping-outdoor/electrical/elect........

Post last edited on 03/04/2017 08:32:29


03/4/2017 at 9:32am
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Many thanks all,

The cover sounds like a plan,

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03/4/2017 at 6:31pm
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Black plastic bag does the same job.

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It isn't correct to join 2 cables together,there is a good reason that the regs stipulate the max length for a hookup cable of 25m + or- 2m.
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03/4/2017 at 6:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 03/4/2017
It isn't correct to join 2 cables together,there is a good reason that the regs stipulate the max length for a hookup cable of 25m + or- 2m.
saxo1



My hook up is 40m from my van so a little hampered in that respect

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03/4/2017 at 7:37pm
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 03/4/2017
It isn't correct to join 2 cables together,there is a good reason that the regs stipulate the max length for a hookup cable of 25m + or- 2m.
saxo1



What regs?



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03/4/2017 at 8:26pm
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BS7671. Used to be called the IEE Wiring Regs for Buildings. There is a section on Caravan Wiring which Saxo correctly says specifies the length of the lead.

A longer lead may affect voltage drop which may affect the correct functioning of equipment and may affect impedance which may affect protection (operation of MCBs etc).

The site should provide you with a hook up point which should not be more than 20 metres from your caravan connection point. Regulation 708.530.3 specifies this.

Two cables joined by a plug and socket are accessible to small children who can stick their fingers in the hole. Not nice.



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I've seen foreign caravanners using 50m extension reels as ehu cables. Just use your 2 leads plugged together with join protected against wet.


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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 03/4/2017
I've seen foreign caravanners using 50m extension reels as ehu cables. Just use your 2 leads plugged together with join protected against wet.



Agreed, you wouldn't be able to buy the protector if it was illegal.
Seen a few sites where you need to use a 15m + 25m joined.



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03/4/2017 at 9:36pm
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Thanks again, I have ordered one and am going back this weekend, I shall measure distance again and if need be buy one shorter lead to make distance of juice less



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Quote: Originally posted by peter1474 on 03/4/2017
Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 03/4/2017
I've seen foreign caravanners using 50m extension reels as ehu cables. Just use your 2 leads plugged together with join protected against wet.



Agreed, you wouldn't be able to buy the protector if it was illegal.
Seen a few sites where you need to use a 15m + 25m joined.

The protectors are just a mechanical protection,they aren't rated against water ingress,the joints are rated at IP 44!
Legality doesn't enter into it they require no more legislation than a plastic bag and they aren't illegal!
The regs state that the EHU post should not be more than 20m from the furthermost point on a pitch,if it is, what other safety regs are they ignoring?
it is a condition of their licence that the electrics are tested and conform to BS 7671.
Just because foreigners do it doesn't make it safe!
I often wonder at the mentality of some caravanners when they insist that tyres be changed at 5 years old,when there is no such rule ,yet are prepared to ignore a regulation formulated by experts in their field to ensure electrical safety.
saxo1



03/4/2017 at 10:34pm
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I shall show this post to the warden when I go at the weekend as we have just moved there chances are he may find us another pitch/ehu

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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 03/4/2017

Two cables joined by a plug and socket are accessible to small children who can stick their fingers in the hole. Not nice.





Why would you let your kids play with electric cables? Everybodys fault but the person responsible for them (if it happened). Whats to stop them cutting, chewing or pulling it out of the socket, if they are free to do as they wish - joint or no joint.



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