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Personbikerbaz68
25/5/2017 at 1:21pm
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CAN SOMEONE SELL YOUR CARAVAN IF THEY ARE STORING IT FOR YOU,AT ANYTIME? HELP


Personblueexpo97
25/5/2017 at 2:07pm
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Welcome to the forum, maybe best to give everyone a bit more information. This time with cap lock off please.

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Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.


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Personbikerbaz68
25/5/2017 at 2:27pm
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lady was storing my van when the wife rang to pay her,she was told it had been sold,as we owed her some money.


Personbikerbaz68
25/5/2017 at 2:29pm
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we had not had any warning of this,any advice?


Personblueexpo97
25/5/2017 at 2:42pm
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Have you spoken to CAB?

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As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.


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Personbikerbaz68
25/5/2017 at 2:46pm
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yes they said go to police,report it as stolen.police said nothing they can do...


Personalan29
25/5/2017 at 3:38pm
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What was in the agreement?
Did it state that they could sell it if you didn't pay the fees? If so, after how long could they do it?


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Not sure will have to check with the wife,but surely she should have gone to court,as it wasn't hers.


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25/5/2017 at 4:56pm
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If police don't consider it stolen then short of a civil action in court there is nothing you can do. As pointed out if it's in t&c's that caravan can be disposed of if storage fees not paid then little you can do. If you consider caravan was worth more than outstanding storage fees & she owes you money then your only option is take her to court. Small claims court don't cost much & just the threat of it might make her style up.


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Ok thanks van was worth £3500 she sold it for £1000 including all our belongings,looks like court it is.


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25/5/2017 at 6:56pm
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No, nobody can sell your property without your permission to do so. Definitely report it to the police.

Whether you owe the person storing the caravan is irrelevant. They can only seize your goods in lieu of payment after going through the proper legal process, which would involve informing you in the first instance. In effect they have stolen your property, and sold it, so they have committed two criminal acts.

Go to the police a.s.a.p!

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25/5/2017 at 7:26pm
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Thank you colin21 I will go to police tomorrow,we had no court letters what so ever.


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I am assuming of course that there was nothing in the storage agreement that you signed, if you had such an agreement. I still think it would be difficult for them to make it stand up in court if they didn't contact you first.

Please let us know how you get on.

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It appears he has gone to cops & was told there was no crime committed. Yes they can sell property they hold in lieu of a debt. For example a garage can sell a car if repair bill is not paid. They can only recover money owed though. Difficulty here though is deciding how much caravan is worth. If they auctioned it for a grand & that was outstanding deft then nothing more can be done.

Op can only recover money if he can prove proceeds from caravan sale exceeded debt & excess was pocketed by plaintif.


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I don't think you are right in this instance Opensauce. I used to keep a boat in a boatyard, and they had a clause in their agreement allowing them to sell a boat to recover mooring fees, but they only ever invoked this clause after numerous requests for payment, and several letters to the boat's owner informing them that they were about to seize the boat. Normally this process would take over two years and dozens of letters. In many cases it turned out that the boat owner had died.

Admittedly the O/P hasn't said how long this has been going on, but I assume this is recent. I would say that the owner of the storage is guilty of theft, and of selling stolen property. I would raise hell with my local police if something like this happened to me. There is no automatic right to seize goods, the owner of the goods (caravan) has to have signed agreeing to it should they default. Failing such an agreement, the storage owner would have to take court action.

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We have a similar system at our sailing club. We have a 'lien' on the boat meaning we can take possession of it to settle unpaid debts. We must give 3 months notice in writing to the last address given to us by the owner.

If we sell it we may deduct any monies owed and must then account for the balance to the owner.

My guess is that if a similar agreement is in place it will be a civil matter rather than theft.



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