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via mobile 11/6/2021 at 6:48am
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We are looking for recommendations please of caravans that are spacious and comfortable inside to accommodate 4 people and 2 labradors. The wider inside the better...
Our budget is 23k


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Not sure if you've looked on Caravan Finder or not to get an idea of layouts etc.

We have two Weimaraners and they fit quite nicely in our Adria Adora Isonzo, they love the van.

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via mobile 11/6/2021 at 8:05am
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Welcome to the forum. The first thing to consider is what you can tow depending on your tow car and your licence. The guide line is that the MTPLM of the caravan should not exceed 85% of the kerb weight of the car for a novice tower, it must also not exceed the max tow limit of the car. Do you have a B+E licence? If not your choice will be restricted even more.

Are your 4 people adult size? A couple plus 2 children will have different requirements to 4 adults. The dogs will also take up a lot of room but an awning will provide some extra living space.

If you can come back with some more information we can give you some ideas to help start your search but bear in mind that this is not the best year to find your ideal van as most dealers are short of stock.

Rob


11/6/2021 at 8:46am
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As Rob say, the most important first couple of considerations are whether you have the B+E category on your driving license and what the kerb weight and max towing limit of your car is.

Once you have ascertained what you can legally and safely tow, then start to think about the most suitable layout for you. If you have kids, what size are they? Many models have bunk beds for children which are great for small kids but if you have a teenage boy growing like a weed, he may quickly outgrow the bunk. Think about whether you want a fixed double bed or not and if you do, where you want it positioned. In most modern fixed bed caravans the washroom is in one of two places, either along the rear of the caravan or across the middle, separating the bedroom at the back from the living area at the front. If you have 4 adults or older children, this mid bathroom may provide a bit more privacy at night time and allow everyone to access the bathroom more easily. Many 4 berth caravans with a fixed bed make use of the front seating to make up into a second double bed to provide the 3rd and 4th berth but consider if your third and fourth guests would be happy sharing a double bed. If they are little kids it is not a problem but as they get older, they may not want to share a bed!

If you have 2 adults and 2 older kids, also think about whether it would work to have the kids in a pup tent outside or if you plan to use an awning, you can put up a bedroom annex in the awning for the kids which does away with worrying where you can put them inside!

There are so many considerations that will depend a lot of personal preference and whether your 4 people are all adults or, if some are kids, what age and size they are.

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Hi hubby is a wagon driver so has all class 1 2 etc, it's been towed by a t5 transporter and we have a 10 and 14yr old.
Tia x


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via mobile 11/6/2021 at 9:16am
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Check that he has the B+E on the licence as I'm not sure if you automatically get that when you have the truck licences.

Check what the VW can tow as there are lots of different versions with different engines and towing weights can vary enormously.

Does your budget include a towbar, awning and all the other bits and pieces you will need? Batteries, gas bottles, crockery, bedding etc all eat into the budget.

Rob


11/6/2021 at 9:55am
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Hi Rob yes he has both, ok will look into what it can tow now. No our budget is for the van and awning and battery. Everything else we can get.
thank you for responding


11/6/2021 at 10:58am
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Here is a caravan that may be suitable as you have your space and kids have theirs. See https://elddis.co.uk/models/avante-840

Whatever you decide, buy from a dealer, pay a deposit with a credit card and have about £2k - 5k on HP not personal loan. This gives you even more protection than CRA 2015 should there be issues with your new caravan. Hopefully there will be no issues.

Expect to wait a couple of months for delivery as there is a huge backlog with all brands. It will be worth waiting.


11/6/2021 at 11:04am
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As others have said, you've got to start with weight/towing limits first, then whittle down the complying range of vans that suit your needs/likes.

As previously said, Caravan Finder is a good place to look to shortlist potential vans, but absolutely no substitute for 'hands on' experience of seeing a van in the flesh to get the feel of if it is right for you. Simply visit as many showrooms/exhibitions as you can to get a feel for what's out there. Don't just look at the glossy brochure type 'star' features, look for the things that will irritate if you have to live with them, things you bang your head/elbows on, uncomfortable/awkward cabinet handles etc. - you'll find them if you look!

Take any manufacturers 'berth' figures as point of further enquiry rather than literal! Many vans, mine included, are rated as 4 berth, but really only 2 adult plus two 'up to young teenager' size beds (that is never/rarely mentioned in the sales blurb, you need to check in the dimension details for yourself!)! The fold up/down type bunk beds will likely be undersize and weight limited! Even fixed bed/bunks may not be full size! Your eldest could already be on the point of outgrowing them! You need to check in detail.

One of the issues with 4 people is storage space for clothes and personal effects, and if your dogs are like my dog there's 'doggy baggage' as well! An awning will be almost essential and gives space for fold up tent storage type units (wardrobe, chest of drawers, etc.). You can get bedroom inserts/extensions for many awnings which may improve the berth and layout options of your van.

Why is no one pointing you at brands and models as you asked for? It's a personal choice, and no two people have the same view. Besides, a fair few people hate their own choices when they bought without due consideration of living with a particular van, so guiding someone else is fraught with multiple ways of giving wrong advice.

Good luck. The search is both fun and frustrating!


11/6/2021 at 11:38am
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I did say Adria.

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11/6/2021 at 7:57pm
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The 14 year old may be a problem if tall and will continue to get bigger. 4 berths are for 2 adults and 2 kids.


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Thank you so much for your advice it was really informative


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Hmm OK you are absolutely correct so I need to look at 6 berth then don't I


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I do like the Adria tbh


12/6/2021 at 7:08am
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Quote: Originally posted by Debbiedibbles on 12/6/2021
I do like the Adria tbh



They are well built, but spartan in comparison to a British caravan. Many things that are standard on a British caravan are an extra at a cost. Also it is a very heavy caravan.


12/6/2021 at 10:09am
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I'm interested as to what is extra at a cost please.

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