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02/1/2022 at 11:01am
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Pretty much general advice to anyone acquiring a new van (or tent, camper etc.), be it brand new or s-h/new to them, book a site near to home for a few days to try the van out to find it's faults and/or foibles, and ensure you have all the kit you need! Set it up and live in it on your driveway if you have one is another alternative. If it's new to you and untried, every chance there will be something you overlooked/were not aware of, and a long stay hundreds of miles from home is NOT the best place to find out!
A short stay close to home also give you a trial tow to ensure all van chassis components are working properly AND that new towbar (and electrics) are all in order, towbar electrics can vary enormously in what you actually get for your money and their compatibility with any particular trailer AND sometimes have teething issues on a new installation! Don't simply take the word of any seller you purchased from that it's 'ready to go', far too many dealerships don't do thorough checks, only quick visual inspections and then mostly to give them some bargaining leverage to barter the price paid down from whoever they acquired it from! If a private purchase, sellers are often simply not technically savvy enough to identify faults, and/or keep quite to sell the van!
I suspect a van of that age and light weight will have a non-damped coupling, in which case don't forget to ideally clean any paint off the new towball, and then grease it. If it's got a damped coupling, you MUST clean ALL traces of paint off the new towball and de-dust and DE-GREASE it, there must NOT be any lubricant/contamination/rust on the tow ball for a damped coupling!
Always useful to have a checklist for prepping/towing/pitching the van, these are a good starting point, most of us do a personally customised version as we tailor our set up to our needs, but you need to start somewhere.
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09/1/2022 at 1:21pm
Location: North Somerset Outfit: Freedom Microlite
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 02/1/2022
Pretty much general advice to anyone acquiring a new van (or tent, camper etc.), be it brand new or s-h/new to them, book a site near to home for a few days to try the van out to find it's faults and/or foibles, and ensure you have all the kit you need! Set it up and live in it on your driveway if you have one is another alternative. If it's new to you and untried, every chance there will be something you overlooked/were not aware of, and a long stay hundreds of miles from home is NOT the best place to find out!
A short stay close to home also give you a trial tow to ensure all van chassis components are working properly AND that new towbar (and electrics) are all in order, towbar electrics can vary enormously in what you actually get for your money and their compatibility with any particular trailer AND sometimes have teething issues on a new installation! Don't simply take the word of any seller you purchased from that it's 'ready to go', far too many dealerships don't do thorough checks, only quick visual inspections and then mostly to give them some bargaining leverage to barter the price paid down from whoever they acquired it from! If a private purchase, sellers are often simply not technically savvy enough to identify faults, and/or keep quite to sell the van!
I suspect a van of that age and light weight will have a non-damped coupling, in which case don't forget to ideally clean any paint off the new towball, and then grease it. If it's got a damped coupling, you MUST clean ALL traces of paint off the new towball and de-dust and DE-GREASE it, there must NOT be any lubricant/contamination/rust on the tow ball for a damped coupling!
Always useful to have a checklist for prepping/towing/pitching the van, these are a good starting point, most of us do a personally customised version as we tailor our set up to our needs, but you need to start somewhere.
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Some good advice there, but can I be a real thickie and ask what a damped coupling is, please?!
I am hoping to get a folding 'van myself soon, and haven't done any towing for a few years. Have I missed something? I am wondering whether you mean the type of coupling that helps prevent snaking.
Thank you.
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09/1/2022 at 6:15pm
Location: London Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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Quote: Originally posted by CyberCynth on 09/1/2022
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Some good advice there, but can I be a real thickie and ask what a damped coupling is, please?!
I am hoping to get a folding 'van myself soon, and haven't done any towing for a few years. Have I missed something? I am wondering whether you mean the type of coupling that helps prevent snaking.
Thank you.
Spot on Cynth, 'damped couplings' (Alko AKS 3004 probably being the most common fitted to modern vans) have what are effectively small brake pads applied by a second lever after the coupling has been hitched that grip the tow ball, and 'damp' minor movements to aid in preventing snaking. Being brake pads, much the same as your car's brakes, they must operate on clean steel/iron to be effective, hence no paint, grease or rust on tow ball!
Even on new outfits, tend only to be fitted to heavier trailers where there is a greater risk of the 'tail wagging the dog' and snaking being a problem.
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11/1/2022 at 1:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 09/1/2022
Quote: Originally posted by CyberCynth on 09/1/2022
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Some good advice there, but can I be a real thickie and ask what a damped coupling is, please?!
I am hoping to get a folding 'van myself soon, and haven't done any towing for a few years. Have I missed something? I am wondering whether you mean the type of coupling that helps prevent snaking.
Thank you.
Spot on Cynth, 'damped couplings' (Alko AKS 3004 probably being the most common fitted to modern vans) have what are effectively small brake pads applied by a second lever after the coupling has been hitched that grip the tow ball, and 'damp' minor movements to aid in preventing snaking. Being brake pads, much the same as your car's brakes, they must operate on clean steel/iron to be effective, hence no paint, grease or rust on tow ball!
Even on new outfits, tend only to be fitted to heavier trailers where there is a greater risk of the 'tail wagging the dog' and snaking being a problem.
Thanks for that Monty15. So I'd hardly need one for towing one of the smaller Gobur caravans.
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11/1/2022 at 4:18pm
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Quote: Originally posted by CyberCynth on 11/1/2022
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Thanks for that Monty15. So I'd hardly need one for towing one of the smaller Gobur caravans.
Arguably not essential for any van (we did without them for many decades!), but undoubtedly of benefit the heavier the van gets in relation to tow vehicle. As to a Gobur, the folded down low profile goes a long way to avoiding the effects of cross wind gusts and HGV 'bow waves' that are often the start of snaking, but any trailer heavy enough to 'wag the dog' always has some potential to start snaking, so if it were an option, or two vans of equal value/quality on offer, I'd opt for the damped coupling one as just another bit of safety stacked in my favour. Apart from cross winds/bow waves, and probably the greatest cause of snaking is poor loading of the trailer coupled with inappropriate speed (doesn't even have to be excessively fast, just faster than the outfit is stable at, and that can be quite low!), and that is completely avoidable without any technology to compensate for it! On my way back home from picking my van up from the dealer when purchased, my van was horribly unstable at 40mph and trying to snake (thankfully probably saved by a damped coupling and the ATC anti-snaking device fitted, as much as my experience of towing), turned out to be a combination of incorrect fore-aft weight distribution and under inflated tyres (never trust a dealer!), once corrected it now tows like a dream at 60mph, and even accidentally hit 70mph or so a few times and it's still solid as a rock without relying on technology to kick in and save the day!
Three bits of technology that have made vans easier to tow, or should that be partially compensate for lack of driver skill, as the driver should be driving within the limits of the outfit, and know those limits! Damped couplings, ATC anti-snaking devices, and damped axles (shock absorbers fitted) which stop the van bouncing around on uneven road surfaces, all do their part in reducing snaking risk.
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