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07/11/2007 at 11:21pm
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I know there are anti surge/spike adaptors that allow you to plug into like a 4 way extension lead so would assume there are the same which you can plug into from the genny to a anti spike to the van but I am out of my depth  really with this so check with someone who knows for definite


16/11/2007 at 11:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by tykey on 06/11/2007
As a rule of thumb, most EHU supplies are 6 amp. This is normally enough as long as you don't plug the kettle in at the same time as the heaters.

A 750w generator will be half of this, so you could run the heaters on gas, and be ok with most other things from the genny

Apart from our August Mid Wales pitch,we have not visited a site with 6amp EHUs. The last 5 we've used have been 12,16,12,12 &16. Is 6amp the usual in your part o't' country?.


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17/11/2007 at 1:05am
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I have a 2.2kw genny.

It makes a lot of enemies on some sites.

But it made a lot of friends on the night we had a power cut.

Use them sensibly and you shouldn't have any problems.



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17/11/2007 at 9:32pm
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Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 07/11/2007
Also worth remembering is that generators are inherantly unsafe as they are not earthed. .

A generator does not produce a voltage with respect to earth, unlike mains electricity where the earth and neutral are tied together so I am afraid you are scaremongering without fact.

Anyone earthing a generator should seek professional aedvice before doing so as it can cause serious risk if not done properly. In fact users of generators should be very careful as "spike" suppressors are useless because the biggest number of problems are caused by voltage surges when an appliance is switched off and the engine speeds up creating very high voltages.

 

I am no expert on generators but did check with the manufacturers.



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Quote: Originally posted by raymcm on 17/11/2007
Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 07/11/2007 Also worth remembering is that generators are inherantly unsafe as they are not earthed. .

A generator does not produce a voltage with respect to earth, unlike mains electricity where the earth and neutral are tied together so I am afraid you are scaremongering without fact.

Anyone earthing a generator should seek professional aedvice before doing so as it can cause serious risk if not done properly. In fact users of generators should be very careful as "spike" suppressors are useless because the biggest number of problems are caused by voltage surges when an appliance is switched off and the engine speeds up creating very high voltages.

I am no expert on generators but did check with the manufacturers.



The problem is only apparent when there is a fault and the earth circuit on the van becomes live. The voltage then becomes respective to earth when someone stands on the ground and touches the "live" caravan completing the circuit. While I acknowledge the likelihood of this happening is low, it is nonetheless a very real danger which is potentially fatal. Also this is the reason why the HSE insist all tools on sites are 110 volts.
I don't wish to get into a debate on the subject. This is my opinion, as an electrical engineer. Take it on board if you wish, ignore it if you prefer. Frankly I don't much care.


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18/11/2007 at 11:32pm
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http://www.justgenerators.co.uk/pages/FAQ.htm

 



19/11/2007 at 9:24pm
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If you are using a generator let it run for a few minutes before using any appliances.  This allows the generator to settle down.  Also use a surge arrester at the generator.

Early days I started generator when attached to load.  Blew tv transformer and microwave. (Microwave was not in use, only connected)




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