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14/5/2008 at 11:13am
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I now never trust anyone else to hook my trailer or caravan to towball.

just me but i will not stop and talk to anyone hitching up to leave,thats when mistakes can happen.after seeing two come off i double check out loud now.



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14/5/2008 at 11:41am
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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 14/5/2008

I now never trust anyone else to hook my trailer or caravan to towball.

just me but i will not stop and talk to anyone hitching up to leave,thats when mistakes can happen.after seeing two come off i double check out loud now.


Always said it is the drivers responsibility and that he should check that all links are made before setting off. I also always try and lift the van off the hitch, if the car comes up with it then that is a sign it is secure.
Same attitude as I had when driving for a living, check everything twice and then check it again. You should also stop within the first 10-30 miles and check that the wheels are still cool and that nothing has fallen about in the trailer/caravan. A trailer or caravan caravan travelling at 50/60mph will do serious damage to anything it comes into contact with.


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14/5/2008 at 1:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Papa Pip on 14/5/2008

 Always said it is the drivers responsibility and that he should check that all links are made before setting off. I also always try and lift the van off the hitch, if the car comes up with it then that is a sign it is secure.
Same attitude as I had when driving for a living, check everything twice and then check it again. You should also stop within the first 10-30 miles and check that the wheels are still cool and that nothing has fallen about in the trailer/caravan. A trailer or caravan caravan travelling at 50/60mph will do serious damage to anything it comes into contact with.


Use the jockey wheel instead - saves strain on the back! I can't lift mine anyway - 70 kgs is too much, never mind with a car's backend attached.



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14/5/2008 at 11:48pm
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I have just seen an article in a caravan mag that mentions newer types of break away cable have stronger 'clips' and can therefore just be clipped into a towbar 'hole' and not looped back onto themselves.

I am a newbie with a fixed swanneck and am totally confused! the caravan dealer spent about 2 hours going over every item in detail with me, and one of these points was clipping the breakaway cable directly to a hole on the towbar.

My Abbey manual says to loop the cable over the swan neck if it can not be passed through a dedicated breakaway 'hole' and cliped back onto itself. But I too feel this could jump off.

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15/5/2008 at 12:55am
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Hi Rich, If you cannot pass it through the hole and clip it back on its self, then the next best thing is to clip it to a designatated hole. Do not pass it around the Swan Neck.

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15/5/2008 at 10:21am
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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 15/5/2008
Hi Rich, If you cannot pass it through the hole and clip it back on its self, then the next best thing is to clip it to a designatated hole. Do not pass it around the Swan Neck.
Hi Lobey, thats what I would prefer to do, but my Abbey manual says that the breakaway clip isnt strong enough this way and would snap off before it had a chance to tighten.

Arghhhh,

Rich


15/5/2008 at 12:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bordercaz on 14/5/2008
Quote: Originally posted by Papa Pip on 14/5/2008

 Always said it is the drivers responsibility and that he should check that all links are made before setting off. I also always try and lift the van off the hitch, if the car comes up with it then that is a sign it is secure.
Same attitude as I had when driving for a living, check everything twice and then check it again. You should also stop within the first 10-30 miles and check that the wheels are still cool and that nothing has fallen about in the trailer/caravan. A trailer or caravan caravan travelling at 50/60mph will do serious damage to anything it comes into contact with.


Use the jockey wheel instead - saves strain on the back! I can't lift mine anyway - 70 kgs is too much, never mind with a car's backend attached.


Cheers Caz, afraid 5kgs is a bit much these days so will use the jockey wheel as well.
 

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I was told by my local trailer dealer that it was best around the tow ball, as it then did not snap too early in a separation. Apparently there have been cases where the cable hook fitted in a pigtail etc. has failed BEFORE the handbrake was fully engaged. I think the chance of it jumping off the ball are remote otherwise it would not be legal to fix it on there. What do the panel think?  


15/5/2008 at 5:44pm
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>>> I think the chance of it jumping off the ball are remote otherwise it would not be legal to fix it on there. What do the panel think?     <<<

Well as the whole reason for the breakaway cable is to put on the brakes of a caravan that has "jumped off the towball" I reckon it would be a bloody silly idea to have the breakaway cable around the same unit.

You want the breakaway cable attached to a totally different part of the towbar altogether.

As to the remoteness of the breakaway cable jumping anywhere, well the whole senario, caravan or cable jumping off is remote, but the fact that they all have these cables and it does not cost an arm and a leg to fit a designated brakeaway clip it seems mad to me that anyone would want to chance losing their caravan or worse still, cause a major accident all to save £1.45.



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15/5/2008 at 6:08pm
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i bet you could lift your van put it on ya shoulder and pitch it where ever you like caz i love the small vans we was away last week and there was 2 eriba s on site i think they look smart

 

Quote: Originally posted by bordercaz on 14/5/2008


Quote: Originally posted by Papa Pip on 14/5/2008

 Always said it is the drivers responsibility and that he should check that all links are made before setting off. I also always try and lift the van off the hitch, if the car comes up with it then that is a sign it is secure.
Same attitude as I had when driving for a living, check everything twice and then check it again. You should also stop within the first 10-30 miles and check that the wheels are still cool and that nothing has fallen about in the trailer/caravan. A trailer or caravan caravan travelling at 50/60mph will do serious damage to anything it comes into contact with.


Use the jockey wheel instead - saves strain on the back! I can't lift mine anyway - 70 kgs is too much, never mind with a car's backend attached.




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15/5/2008 at 6:10pm
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my whole breakaway cable disapeared off my van yesturday when we was coming bk good job the site was only 8 miles away lol


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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 15/5/2008

>>> I think the chance of it jumping off the ball are remote otherwise it would not be legal to fix it on there. What do the panel think?     <<<

it seems mad to me that anyone would want to chance losing their caravan or worse still, cause a major accident all to save £1.45.


I dont think Lobby that you read my reasons for doing this. Dont forget the cable is under the hitch when in place, so if the van jumps off the handbrake is pulled, its got NOTHING to do with saving £1.45 !!  


20/5/2008 at 10:59am
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I would buy that clip, but the hole does not look bigger than the hole already on my tow bar? I thought the idea of a 'hole' was to be able to pass the 'clip' through it so it could fix back onto itself?

Probably a silly question, but would it be legal/safe to fit a D ring to the current hole on the towbar wich would have a large enough appeture to allow the clip to pass through it?


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20/5/2008 at 12:05pm
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Wouldn't fitting a bracket to just one bolt of the towbar make the whole fitting a little lop-sided ?

 



20/5/2008 at 12:07pm
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I've just had a re-think...no it wouldn't !!


20/5/2008 at 12:36pm
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 I was thinking that it could be attached to a 'hole' thats already on the towbar bracket (its a swan neck - its just that the 'hole' isn't big enough to pass the clip through) - not touching the actual tow bar bolts.

Rich




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