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20/2/2009 at 12:58pm
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obviously you would assess the situation on the pitch you were on, yes if its a site we havent been on before we do elevate the socket by tapeing it to the down leg of the awning pole but the rcd is in the second socket running only to your awning not the supply to your van so if it trips will only trip the things out in the awning (me hubby is electric brained so tested it out before we even made the leads and to be fair ours has never tripped)

post - lead -3 way splitter -

                 (1st socket on splitter)-lead -caravan

                 (2nd socket on splitter)-lead containing rcd -to awning plug/socket.

                  (3rd socket on splitter) -leaving this one spare.

tried to explain how we do it hope you understand what i mean.



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22/2/2009 at 8:05pm
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would this work ??

i've seen it on sale for £25!

Mobile Mains Power Unit 



22/2/2009 at 8:33pm
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quote(the rcd is in the second socket running only to your awning not the supply to your van so if it trips it will only trip the things out in the awning (me hubby is electric brained so tested it out before we even made the leads and to be fair ours has never tripped)

It will also trip the RCD at the supply post!
Saxo1


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is this better?

Delta 3-Way Mobile Mains UnitIt states that all three have RCD protection



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22/2/2009 at 11:04pm
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yes mick gent any of those will work connected to the splitter.

saxo1 the rcd of the extension will trip before the post if there is a fault on the connected devises ( like a lawnmover trip would trip before tripping the house electrics)

mick gent what area are you ? if u r local to us we could show u ours ?

regards

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23/2/2009 at 8:30am
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Hi Mick,
Recently added an outside socket to my caravan, placing it underneath in front of the nearside wheel, it is protected by the onboard RCD. Have a look Here to give you an idea, if you go this route.
Cheers,

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23/2/2009 at 11:28am
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Mick, if you are going to the expense of getting a tent EHU for your awning, the second one pictured is better because on the in-line one it can be impossible to use all 3 sockets at once if you have any large plugs, like the transformers on mobile chargers, for example.

But you may find some campsites query using a splitter on their post - they may want to charge you for 2 EHUs!

If you run an extension from the caravan, or wire in an external socket, it's all protected by the on-board RCD anyway.

Having two lots of RCDs won't let you run anymore from the post.



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23/2/2009 at 7:07pm
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i thought that you would run 1 line from the post and connect to the caravan from one of the sockets - i'm not sure what is meant by a splitter on the post!!

anyone got a diagram that i can view

Mrs P i'm on the east coast of yorkshire any good?



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Sorry Bordercaz but you are wrong,the extension would not trip before the supply post,if two RCDs are connected in series they will both see the fault and both will trip unless the primary RCD is of the type that can be set to delay the trip.Also the RCD on the sunncamp I believe is an 80 milliamp unit whereas the supply posts are 30 milliamp units.
Any house sockets that are used to provide electricity outdoors should be protected by a 30 milliamp trip.
Most EHU's on sale for campers could not be used in the workplace, it is a requirement of the electricity at work regs that all portable appliances are protected by a 30 milliamp trip.
An 80 milliamp shock can still be fatal the highest acceptable shock is 30 milliamps for 40 milliseconds.
I saw an EHU in another posting that did have a 30 milliamp RCD and someone on this forum dismissed it and recommended the Sunncamp.
By far the safest way to get a supply in the awning would be to run it from the caravan supply.
Saxo1


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23/2/2009 at 9:35pm
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you should be able to have a socket put on the outside from where you purchased the van from .theyre about £50


23/2/2009 at 10:35pm
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hi mick gent

we going away this weekend so will photograph how we set ours up, if you drop me on email i will forward the photos to you. we are in staffordshire but cheshire is our local retreat..

regards

 

 

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24/2/2009 at 12:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 23/2/2009


Sorry Bordercaz but you are wrong,the extension would not trip before the supply post, I never said it would, did I? I think it was Mrs P who said it if two RCDs are connected in series they will both see the fault and both will trip unless the primary RCD is of the type that can be set to delay the trip.Also the RCD on the sunncamp I believe is an 80 milliamp unit whereas the supply posts are 30 milliamp units.
Any house sockets that are used to provide electricity outdoors should be protected by a 30 milliamp trip.
Most EHU's on sale for campers could not be used in the workplace, it is a requirement of the electricity at work regs that all portable appliances are protected by a 30 milliamp trip.
An 80 milliamp shock can still be fatal the highest acceptable shock is 30 milliamps for 40 milliseconds.
I saw an EHU in another posting that did have a 30 milliamp RCD and someone on this forum dismissed it and recommended the Sunncamp.
By far the safest way to get a supply in the awning would be to run it from the caravan supply. Isn't that what I said?
Saxo1

I do appreciate that regulations for camping/caravans are different to those for houses and workplaces.



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24/2/2009 at 1:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mick Gent on 23/2/2009

 

i thought that you would run 1 line from the post and connect to the caravan from one of the sockets


  Thats what I did on my camper

 

Robin



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I apologise Bordercaz yes it was mrs p!
Saxo1


24/2/2009 at 5:47pm
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if you have a locker that you can access from outside then that is an ideal place to fit a socket. we have both 230v and 12v sockets fitted in ours, very handy.

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