Quote: Originally posted by CandP on 03/7/2009
Why does this phenomenon only appear to exist in caravans?
I'm gonna guess because caravan workshops don't work to the same standards as car main dealers & tyre depots, who have an absolute rule rule that wheelnuts must be torqued.
The caravan trade is tiny compared with the motor trade so therefore recieves less publicity when standards are poor, the only reason standards have improved in the motortrade is the averse publicity it has recieved in the past & also the power of the internet because everybody has cars.
The caravan industry is archaic by comparision, it is scandalous that one is tied to the selling dealer for service & caravan manufacturers do nowt about this. If you ain't able to use another service place there is no reason why your existing one should raise it's standards.
I'm also going to guess that caravans lose wheels because some don't ever get serviced & it don't occur to the owners to check them.
think it is because we only read about it on here more, wheels do come off cars and i have seen it happening, the main thing is that every reponsible driver should get a half decent torque wrench and sockets and check the torque regularly.
before every trip with the van check tyre pressures, torque and tyre condition, every 200 miles or monthly do same with car
Quote: Originally posted by sweetpeaheidi on 03/7/2009
If it covered 90 miles then why are you bleating to the service centre? If they hadn't done their job properly I would have expected it to drop off sooner. Why does everyone need to find someone to blame? Did you not think to check the wheels as part of a routine before setting off on your return journey?
oh deer more attacking unhelpfull info,its becoming a habbit with you.
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Quote: Originally posted by sweetpeaheidi on 03/7/2009
If it covered 90 miles then why are you bleating to the service centre? If they hadn't done their job properly I would have expected it to drop off sooner. Why does everyone need to find someone to blame? Did you not think to check the wheels as part of a routine before setting off on your return journey?
don't think being angry/annoyed could be described as 'bleating' and i definately would not expect a wheel to drop off any time, something that could occur upon leaving service area or 100 - 1000 miles further down the road. what i do expect is when i pay someone £200 to do a job is to have the job done to a satisfactory standard, when i get my car serviced i never check the oil level, neither do i check carbon emissions in my house when i have had central heating serviced. i was also considering getting a caravan mover fitted, would i need to check all the bolts have been secured on this too? doubt it.
thanx to all other sensible comments tho, will see what service company say when i take van in next week, they do seem a genuine company i have only used them once before and would not want to cause any friction between them and myself, but if needs be there are plenty other company's out there who would gladly accept my hard earned cash for their service
cheers brin
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At the end of the day if the chassis maker says to torque the nuts to what ever. & this is done & the wheel still comes undone then the chassis maker as its figures wrong or its a design fault.
wheels fall off all the time . i was with a mate n we had travelled asll the way to spain then one of his back wheels fell off in the centre of aquadulce. why? over my years in the garage /tyre trade it happens often. always check wheel nuts after refitting check again after a few miles then again tomorrow. still some times they come loose. some put oil on the treads , vw always say dont put anything on threads so whats the answer . check several times. never say it wont happen to me.
no it was on a truck. other than fuel stop once it was off at calais n drive on to spain none stop . thats why we had 2 drivers. they were tight when we left base ,it just goes to show how far you can go before it fell off. if we had stopped over night we would have considered if it had been tried to be nicked but about 1200miles then fall off amazing.good story round the campfire though.
I find it hard to believe that any loose wheel would cover 90 miles before 'falling off'. Surely you would have felt some instability, certainly on bends. Glad no one was hurt, but it makes you thing. I like the indicaters that Michael has had fitted. Seems like a good idea.
Our Bailey ranger was fitted with the indicators shown above - they are hidden behind the wheel trims though and I have to remember to take these off to check they are still ok.
When I had the tyres on my car changed a couple of weeks ago the fitter insisted that I witnessed the torque wrench setting and final tightening of the nuts.
Why not put some (Loctite Threadlocker Blue) on the wheel nuts. They will never work loose then. Make sure you get the right colour because some are stronger than others. Or if you don't want to use this how about putting PTFE tape on the threads.