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03/7/2009 at 11:41am
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Quote: Originally posted by CandP on 03/7/2009
Why does this phenomenon only appear to exist in caravans?


I'm gonna guess because caravan workshops don't work to the same standards as car main dealers & tyre depots, who have an absolute rule rule that wheelnuts must be torqued.

The caravan trade is tiny compared with the motor trade so therefore recieves less publicity when standards are poor, the only reason standards have improved in the motortrade is the averse publicity it has recieved in the past & also the power of the internet because everybody has cars.

The caravan industry is archaic by comparision, it is scandalous that one is tied to the selling dealer for service & caravan manufacturers do nowt about this. If you ain't able to use another service place there is no reason why your existing one should raise it's standards.

I'm also going to guess that caravans lose wheels because some don't ever get serviced & it don't occur to the owners to check them.


03/7/2009 at 11:53am
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It seems that wheels tend to come off MAINLY if you get them serviced.

But you've persuaded me to check mine, next time out




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03/7/2009 at 12:09pm
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think it is because we only read about it on here more, wheels do come off cars and i have seen it happening, the main thing is that every reponsible driver should get a half decent torque wrench and sockets and check the torque regularly.

before every trip with the van check tyre pressures, torque and tyre condition, every 200 miles or monthly do same with car



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03/7/2009 at 12:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by CandP on 03/7/2009
Why does this phenomenon only appear to exist in caravans?

I have never checked my car tyres after its been to ATS or for a service. You very rarely or ever see a car missing its wheels.......

Or is it just that dealers are not meticulous enough?

It doesn't. My son had a wheel fall off on the way home from having new disc brakes fitted.

 



03/7/2009 at 1:19pm
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If you buy car tyres from Costco you sign to agree that it is your responsibility to check the nuts after so many miles (30 or 50 can't recall).



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03/7/2009 at 1:27pm
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i use these indicators as fitted by bailey.if they are pointing to the centre when fitted and have not moved from the last check you are fine.

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03/7/2009 at 8:04pm
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Quote: Originally posted by sweetpeaheidi on 03/7/2009
If it covered 90 miles then why are you bleating to the service centre? If they hadn't done their job properly I would have expected it to drop off sooner. Why does everyone need to find someone to blame? Did you not think to check the wheels as part of a routine before setting off on your return journey?
   oh deer more attacking unhelpfull info,its becoming a habbit with you.

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03/7/2009 at 9:23pm
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Quote: Originally posted by sweetpeaheidi on 03/7/2009
If it covered 90 miles then why are you bleating to the service centre? If they hadn't done their job properly I would have expected it to drop off sooner. Why does everyone need to find someone to blame? Did you not think to check the wheels as part of a routine before setting off on your return journey?

don't think being angry/annoyed could be described as 'bleating' and i definately would not expect a wheel to drop off any time, something that could occur upon leaving service area or 100 - 1000 miles further down the road. what i do expect is when i pay someone £200 to do a job is to have the job done to a satisfactory standard, when i get my car serviced i never check the oil level, neither do i check carbon emissions in my house when i have had central heating serviced. i was also considering getting a caravan mover fitted, would i need to check all the bolts have been secured on this too? doubt it.

thanx to all other sensible comments tho, will see what service company say when i take van in next week, they do seem a genuine company i have only used them once before and would not want to cause any friction between them and myself, but if needs be there are plenty other company's out there who would gladly accept my hard earned cash for their service

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03/7/2009 at 11:32pm
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At the end of the day if the chassis maker says to torque the nuts to what ever. & this is done & the wheel still comes undone then the chassis maker as its figures wrong or its a design fault.


04/7/2009 at 8:17am
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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 03/7/2009

just off to check mine.always check mine before each trip.



Post last edited on 03/07/2009 11:16:52

Really,

I have to be honest that although I check my van tyres befor a trip I only carry out a visual inspection of the studs.

I usually witness my car wheels being torqued up after a tyre change but never check them after and between services.

Am I alone in this? Better carry a wheel brace on the passenger seat in future.17

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04/7/2009 at 10:15am
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wheels fall off all the time . i was with a mate n we had travelled asll the way to spain then one of his back wheels fell off in the centre of aquadulce. why? over my years in the garage /tyre trade it happens often. always check wheel nuts after refitting check again after a few miles then again tomorrow. still some times they come loose. some put oil on the treads , vw always say dont put anything on threads so whats the answer . check several times. never say it wont happen to me.

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04/7/2009 at 4:23pm
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Couldn't you feel anything unusual, like the wheel vibrating before it fell off?.


04/7/2009 at 6:38pm
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no it was on a truck. other than fuel stop once it was off at calais n drive on to spain none stop . thats why we had 2 drivers. they were tight when we left base ,it just goes to show how far you can go before it fell off. if we had stopped over night we would have considered if it had been tried to be nicked but about 1200miles then fall off amazing.good story round the campfire though.



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04/7/2009 at 8:49pm
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I find it hard to believe that any loose wheel would cover 90 miles before 'falling off'. Surely you would have felt some instability, certainly on bends. Glad no one was hurt, but it makes you thing. I like the indicaters that Michael has had fitted. Seems like a good idea.

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04/7/2009 at 9:06pm
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Our Bailey ranger was fitted with the indicators shown above - they are hidden behind the wheel trims though and I have to remember to take these off to check they are still ok.

When I had the tyres on my car changed a couple of weeks ago the fitter insisted that I witnessed the torque wrench setting and final tightening of the nuts.


06/7/2009 at 12:21am
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Why not put some (Loctite Threadlocker Blue) on the wheel nuts. They will never work loose then. Make sure you get the right colour because some are stronger than others. Or if you don't want to use this how about putting PTFE tape on the threads.



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