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08/6/2010 at 8:06am
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It's called private enterprise!!!!!!

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08/6/2010 at 8:40am
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Once you stick a structure on the ground the amount of water that needs to be drained from the land increases. Thus the drainage system you install on a site will have to be designed to cope with the maximum possible drainage requirements for the site. Ban awnings and you can reduce the cost of the infrastructure you install to create the site. For planning permission purposes you need to provide an indication of the drainage requirements for your development and how you will deal with them to secure the support of the relevant water authority for your planning application.

So, maybe its a case of either recovering that cost from everyone who uses the site (in the way that the CC does) or just charge those who need more drainage facilities. Maybe not the reason, but there's an engineering agument for you to mull over, challenge, scoff, etc but ask yourself why do your water rates increase if you erect another building on your land?

Round here we need the drainage system today!

 

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08/6/2010 at 9:29am
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Whatever system you have for pricing, in the end of the day, the campsite has to be financially viable.  Either the campsite meets it's running expenses or it shuts.  It will choose the system which makes them the better profit.  As I once saw in my doctors waiting room: 'Our rotten system is as good as anyone elses rotten system'.

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08/6/2010 at 10:05am
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private enterprise - I can believe that.  So did Dick Turpin. 

As for drainage, I can not believe that.  Drainage is not affected by just a cover. Concrete and tarmac clearly does.  Capillary action draws water in all directions, so some water ultimately drains into the land below the awning.  Just lift the groundsheet after heavy rain to find out.  If it is such a problem why does the caravan club not charge the extra.  The rain falls on their plain too!  Any comprehensive infrastructure covers the whole field and ignores awnings etc.  Having had a friend who created his own campsite a drainage structure under the whole site is not necessary unless the site has a water drainage issue.  Farmers only put field drainage in if there is a problem, not as a matter of course.  The issue is more to do with damaged grass.  But if groundsheets are regularly picked up to allow light to reach the chrorophyll producing cells all will recover quickly.

Still does not answer the question - why does Europe not charge extra for awnings or for the kid's tents?   



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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 08/6/2010
why does Europe not charge extra for awnings or for the kid's tents?


Because they charge separately for pitch, adult, child, car, dog & an extortionate price for ehu instead. & some French sites do charge for extra tent.


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08/6/2010 at 11:08am
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I assume it is because of the 'damage' to the pitch grass after an awning has been there. I noticed on a site we have just been on that tents were charged more than caravans per night, which I think must be for the same reason, as tents groundsheets are not normally breathable. One thing I did find with the campsite we stayed on was that they charged a couple of pounds for the awning, but when I enquired about a pup tent I was going to be charged an extra £9 per night for this, needless to say we did not use a pup tent but used an annex instead which was included in the awning price.

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08/6/2010 at 1:44pm
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but the caravan club do not charge extra   they are in it for the profit too    it can only be a rip off     

sites abroad in some cases ask you to pay for all sundries just like in the uk  but usually in the hotspots and that is where the majority of brits go     I am looking at Millau in the middle of August    over 30 euros to as little as 13 per night  the 30 is all singing and dancing and the 13 much less so but not a bucket and spade site   all sites are in the same section of the town     the all singing and dancing are usually short term sites - easter to october so must make their money fast  therefore they charge for what they can as in private enterprise     others are not so cash hungry - often a family run affair and they meet a particular niche - often full of French shich is a sign in itself      we love them - talk the talk and all is well     



08/6/2010 at 3:47pm
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I think it's all about keeping the base price for a pitch as low as possible, and then topping up with miscellaneous charges. The alternative is a higher base price, but not levying any extra charges. The former pricing model benefits those who don't have awnings/dogs/kids/gazebos, the latter is good for those who arrive with a car bursting with children and animals, and a boot full of accessory shop stock.

You pays yer money... or not.

And the Caravan Club does charge for awnings, but it's less, erm, obvious. It has five types of pitch rising in facilities and cost: Economy, Standard without awning, Standard with awning, Serviced, and Super. Of course, not every site has every type of pitch. 



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08/6/2010 at 3:48pm
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Camping and Caravanning Club don't charge extra.


08/6/2010 at 6:25pm
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where i am going  its 5 pounds extra a night

 



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08/6/2010 at 6:29pm
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never been charged for an awning wherever I have gone on the CC circuit   the few with no awning pitches are obvious since they are fill in type pitches   the others are all the same price whether or not you have an awning   thus no charge for awning

 



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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 08/6/2010

never been charged for an awning wherever I have gone on the CC circuit   the few with no awning pitches are obvious since they are fill in type pitches   the others are all the same price whether or not you have an awning   thus no charge for awning

 




Depends how you look at it ... you could be paying for an awning whether or not you actually choose to use one!

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Depends how you look at it ... you could be paying for an awning whether or not you actually choose to use one!
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absolutely! If you are paying more for a pitch capable of having an awning, than you would pay for a pitch that is not capable, you will be paying the extra for it wether you use it or not!
Simples init.


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should have known not to enter a discussion with a 4x4     bye


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We use one site for a month per season & it's all in the high price school holiday periods. If they charged for an awning, we'd stop going there straight away.

Being charged for how many are in the party over & above two adults & the unit bugs me. We've got four kids, three are now charged as extra adults which adds a lot to the cost of our holidays.

I was looking at a brochure yesterday. They charge extra for everything & once added together, they're not a cheap option. Pat of their brochure was listing storage prices, they charge tow on & tow off prices higher on some days of the week than others. Once you pay all these added costs, caravanning becomes very costly. They'll all get greedier & price themselves out of their own market one day & we'll sell the caravan without a second thought.

BB



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one site I've looked at tonight charge £4 a day for a dog I would love to know what they do for £4 I would expect them to take the dog for a walk and serve it breakfast



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