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10/7/2010 at 3:43pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Dragon44 on 10/7/2010
Our Heiki has buttons which have to be pushed in before operating the latches to open the skylight. Is this a recent innovation?

Al
no ours is same as.

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10/7/2010 at 3:55pm
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Mmmmm - well I guess the answer is, once the latches have been locked, pull the handle down and tie a 1 kg weight to it

Al


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10/7/2010 at 3:57pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Dragon44 on 10/7/2010
Mmmmm - well I guess the answer is, once the latches have been locked, pull the handle down and tie a 1 kg weight to it

Al
possibly,will put my thinking cap on.

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10/7/2010 at 4:01pm
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Michael,

If you do come up with a sensible idea please let me know.

Thanks,
Al


10/7/2010 at 4:09pm
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yes i will.

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The only roof lights that I've seen open is the Heki type and those only on a bailey, could this be because the lights are 90º to normal i.e. hinge facing the front.

Michael I don't think we, and other Remis users have anything to worry about (providing, of course, the roof light has been installed correctly)

I don't think Heki owners have anything to worry about either providing they have been installed hinge facing the front.

I think the problem may be with the Hekis that Baileys have installed that open sideways. Reason being as follows: because of the large overlap of the light over the frame there is a great possibility of side to side movement, turn the light through 90º and this movement becomes back to front. Now add in the wind buffeting factor of a caravan traveling at 60mph...

I'm sure that the movement will be enough to push the catch off the locking point so the next stage is for the wind to open the roof light...

A cure if my theory is correct would be to replace the plastic locking point with a longer strip of aluminium thus making it impossible for the catch to be pushed off the locking point. Even so there may be a possibility of the catch to become worn - I have some that the locking buttons no longer work and others with big gaps between the mating surfaces.

Incidentally both Baileys I saw with their roof lights open were on the A27 traveling east, so a great possibility of them being on the M27 or M3 before the long dual carriageways of the A27 before I saw them - pleanty of time for wind buffeting 60mph motoring

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10/7/2010 at 9:34pm
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Can't understand how the latch would open if the locking button hasn't been pushed up first?

Al


10/7/2010 at 10:00pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Dragon44 on 10/7/2010
Can't understand how the latch would open if the locking button hasn't been pushed up first?

Al

i do,i checked today after talking to you and the LUG that is in a fixed position when locked onto the L catch both are only held together by a quarter of one inch top and bottom.not scaremongery just trying to find answers.there are too many skylights being open for my liking.just suppose the skylight was buffeted from side to side with the wind,if this was to be the catches could separate.coming down from scotland near A6 SHAP one time the cross winds were unbelieable and were pushing us all over the road car and caravan and slowed to 25 MPH..

Rune Caster

like your idea as i thought same.it is just what would look nice in situ.i would like one all the way across.i have some L shaped alloy strip somewhere.



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12/7/2010 at 3:22pm
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I'm thinking of drilling a small hole next to the catch and once it's been locked, put some sort of a pin into the hole so the catch cannot move. Will have a look tomorrow as I'm going to storage.

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12/7/2010 at 4:19pm
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truth is jim i do not think this is the problem,the catch does not open it stays where it is.i think the skylight itself moves sideways in the wind and this causes the catch fixed to the skylight to move away from the locked catch.most that lost a skylight said it was VERY windy.just my opinion mind.

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13/7/2010 at 11:18am
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Michael,

I'm still trying to get my head around how the rooflight works loose. I've put a few pictures of the catch on my Heiku in my profile. Looking at these can you explain in toddler speak what could happen? Mine is fitted sideways BTW.

Thanks,
Al

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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 12/7/2010
truth is jim i do not think this is the problem,the catch does not open it stays where it is.i think the skylight itself moves sideways in the wind and this causes the catch fixed to the skylight to move away from the locked catch.most that lost a skylight said it was VERY windy.just my opinion mind.

You could well be right Michael, it was windy when ours opened, just discovered today that the BUTTONS ARE NOT WORKING on our catches so they can move quite easily, thought about drilling a small hole once the catch is closed and putting a pin through but there's not much space. For the time being I'm going to put a couple of small crocodile clips next to the catch to stop them moving until I can come up with a better idea, not the best looking answer but better safe than sorry. 

           Jim



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Quote: Originally posted by Dragon44 on 13/7/2010


Michael,

I'm still trying to get my head around how the rooflight works loose. I've put a few pictures of the catch on my Heiku in my profile. Looking at these can you explain in toddler speak what could happen? Mine is fitted sideways BTW.

Thanks,
Al

Post last edited on 13/07/2010 11:28:28

out of interest they may NEVER come off.but to put it simply as i am wondering about mine.i just think with all the skylights opening of late there must be a reason and the only explanation apart from being left unlocked i can come up with is the skylight is moving in the wind.the locked catch would stay locked and in the same position as it does not move without the button being pressed.checked mine and there is only a quarter of one inch of plastic on the two locks holding a large skylight shut.



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Our Bailey Ranger did exactley the same thing..... Had a complete new roof, new rails and light fitted under our insurance. Took the dealer nigh on 4 months but we eventually got it back, although I signed the release paperwork saying the work was carried out satisfactory, its going back again at the end of this season to be done again as the work is pretty shocking on closer inspection. They have agreed with me also

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13/7/2010 at 4:38pm
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Thanks for that. I've tried physically moving the skylight sideways bit it doesn't move. However that it not to say it can under windy conditions. Not sure what to do about that really, but will keep thinking.

Al


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Al,

couple of pics for you to show what I think is happening - the pics are of my Remis catch which is not far removed from your Heki catch



Now this is the catch in it's standard closed position, now imagine a 60mph wind constantly buffeting the left hand side of the vent (the front as the roof light is positioned on yours) this 60mph wind is you driving at 60mph.

The buffeting wind is pushing the vent constantly in the direction of the arrow until this happens:



Pushing the catch off the stop entirely, the next thing will be the gas lifts pushing the vent open

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