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Subject Topic: Overturned Caravan!!!!!!!!!!
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14/9/2010 at 9:15am
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Quote: Originally posted by Tentz on 14/9/2010
Quote: Originally posted by Jason Neville on 13/9/2010I would of thought that any overturned caravan accident has to be at fault somehow. They dont just flip over do they?

Correct. If a caravan is being towed at a sensible speed & is correctly loaded & maintained it won't 'flip over' unless presented with an accident situation that is beyond the driver's control.



So wouldn't that be incorrect?

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14/9/2010 at 9:40am
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Quote: Originally posted by IanH on 13/9/2010
Quote: Originally posted by Jason Neville on 13/9/2010

I would of thought that any overturned caravan accident has to be at fault somehow. They dont just flip over do they.


Jason - just a small point - it should be -

"I would have thought........."

Pedantic you may say. Lazy (and incorrect) use of English I say.


i don't think it's your place to comment on another posters use of grammar ..i find your comment highly condecending ..


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14/9/2010 at 10:00am
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getting back on track ..

i feel the incorrect loading of caravans is mainly at fault ..the noseweight is critical i think ..the towcar should have some  heavy items in the boot to stabilise the rear axle as the caravan tends to push the car downhill without the brakes coming on ..it is this few micro seconds that can start the "snake" with alarming conclusions .. my thinking is ..go down the hills in the same gear you would have to go up the hills using engine braking to slow your outfit down .. 

also caravanners must compensate for loss of noseweight on return journeys (i.e less gas, food ect ) also some inexperience is mainly obvious as some just pile everything into the caravan haphazardly thinking "we got here ok so we can get back ok".......



14/9/2010 at 11:36am
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Mind you, how accurate are those travel reports? The accident that closed the M6 for hours the other day was repeatedly reported to be "involving two lorries and a van"; in the event it involved one lorry and two pedestrians.

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there are a lot of people taking up caravaning this year and unfortunatly some of think it,s just hitch up and go.and then disaster strikes,if only they would take some training first,it is nice when new caravaners come on this site to ask for advice before they take to the road.

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14/9/2010 at 9:14pm
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I had a play with this at the NEC a couple of years ago, shows the imporatance of correct loading.

Bailey stability simulator


14/9/2010 at 9:40pm
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Nice vid, isn't physics great.

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15/9/2010 at 10:00am
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Quote: Originally posted by rodderstrotter on 14/9/2010
I had a play with this at the NEC a couple of years ago, shows the imporatance of correct loading.

Bailey stability simulator


Move the axle back slightly (as would happen if you had a A frame half a metre longer) and you would get a more stable result

Make it a twin axle and you would find it difficult to get a snake to happen

Add twin delta axles and ..... need I go on?

The video and experiment is very simple and has been set up to achieve the result and it achieves it very spectacularly.

It's a shame Bailey don't look at the results and say "if we just move the wheels back, we'd have a far more stable caravan than our UK competitors" or something similar.

Another thought - I wonder what percentage of the vans that flip are narrow ones (under 7'6") opposed to wide vans

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