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29/5/2011 at 6:02pm
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I think the op's business model is...He owns 1 or more average size touring caravans, he then advertises these caravans for rent at a site of customers' choice. He then tows the caravan to that site & sets it up. The customer & party then arrives in their own car or whatever & stay in't caravan for agreed time. The op then arrives at site & removes caravan either back to his home or to the site of the next hiring.


29/5/2011 at 6:11pm
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I'm not trying to be contentious - honest! - but the OP said customers would sign a disclaimer and have their own insurance. I took this to mean it would be their caravans.   Maybe I've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. Whether or not, tachograph rules and insurances still apply.  I was surprised and dismayed some years ago, when I found out how much I had to spend to stay in business.

This may clrify:-

http://www.yourroadrisk.co.uk/2009/01/30/towing-trailers-with-vehicles-and-the-law/

The DVLA will confirm, but you have to dig to get to the right people.

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29/5/2011 at 6:37pm
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A cpc is a qualification called a certificate of professional competance usually for transport managers so they can apply for an operaters licence to run a business and store heavy goods vehicles etc on a premise .


29/5/2011 at 6:39pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Tentz on 29/5/2011
I think the op's business model is...He owns 1 or more average size touring caravans, he then advertises these caravans for rent at a site of customers' choice. He then tows the caravan to that site & sets it up. The customer & party then arrives in their own car or whatever & stay in't caravan for agreed time. The op then arrives at site & removes caravan either back to his home or to the site of the next hiring.
That was my take on it too.

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29/5/2011 at 8:01pm
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Hi, My take on it too, as post topic, said "Touring Caravan Hire."

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29/5/2011 at 8:18pm
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Hi no I am only towing my caravans not the customers and i may site it for the summer holidays to hire.


29/5/2011 at 8:22pm
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sorry i have caused some confusion the vans will be mine and no one tows except me. I have my ins for vans but customers have their own for themselfs and belongings. whether it works we will see .


29/5/2011 at 8:44pm
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I think its a great idea hereford42, I really hope its a success, keep us updated. ~Pin money or not, its still a good idea.
(also hope this post has cheered you up after the confusion)

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29/5/2011 at 8:49pm
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Hi gazmister123 . Thanks for your support feeling a bit low after the comments but you have cheered me up.I will give it a go still nothing to lose.


29/5/2011 at 8:52pm
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Sorry, I have obviously misunderstood. However, it doesn't change what you need.
Charles, I am not talking about the CPC for transport manager that we've had for many years. I mean the new driver CPC coming in this year.
Jim


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30/5/2011 at 9:00am
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Sorry Greededemon315 i missunderstood


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If you are towing for reward which is what you will be doing, you will need to change your car insurance to a business insurance.
I also assume that there are other regulations that need to adhered to but I am not familar with them. You are probably aware that you may have to get a habitation certificate for the caravan at least once a year. Also you have to have the caravan tested before every rental but not certified.
I would consult a professional person, i.e. a solicitor not a dealer, before investing any money as there may be some unseen pitfalls. The last thing you would need is for a client to sue you and then to lose everything including your home.
Good luck with your enetrprise.


30/5/2011 at 9:59am
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No problem Charles, it's a bit complicated, isn't it?

I'm confident about these items.

The OP will need business insurance for his car, and public liability insurance.  I can't thinl of a business that doesn't require those.  He will also need a tachograph, provided that his Gross Train Weight exceeds 3500Kg.  With a 4 x 4 it almost certainly does.  Bear in mind, of course, that once a tacho is fitted, it must be used for all journeys, and drivers' hours most certainly apply.  That is why I never used my personal vehicle to do this.  I always bought a vehicle specifically for the job.  Otherwise, it's very restricting.

The driver cpc I'm not sure about.  As I was due to retire before the compulsory start date, I never worried about it.  It could be bundled with the tachograph regulations, or it could be attached to a specific group of licences.

The OP certainly needs to talk to the DVLA.  It's not easy getting through to the right people.  They seem to change all the time, although it's a while since I last spoke to them.

It's not something you can set up on the cheap, and there are pitfalls that could cause problems, but I hope it works out for you.

Best regards

Jim




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