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27/6/2011 at 7:27pm
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Yes saxo1. In view of some of the earlier posts which flagged up potential barriers to MOTs, the point I was making was that the building blocks are in place to introduce MOTs for caravans, if they wanted to. It would just part of the legislation that all caravans would need to be CRIS registered, or some similar identification system, to facilitate checks, enforcecment etc.

In the event that the powers that be consider that caravans pose a potential risk to highways users, (or see MOTs as a fund raising exercise), then its only a small step to doing it, in terms of legislative change.

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i know not all vans are not CRIS as mine isnt, long story but gave up with them paperwork alot of hastle.
but vans do have a serial/chassis number, which i assume is uniq,

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27/6/2011 at 8:12pm
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To be a workable solution it would,IMHo, be necessary for caravans to have their own logbook and individual plate as is the case in France.
Yes caravans do have a chassis no but it isn't recorded anywhere for the authorities to check and in view of the current financial situation would the cost of setting up a system be justified?
The question remains is it really necessary? In 54 years of driving allover the U.K. and mainland Europe I have never seen an accident involving a caravan,I have seen a lot of accidents involving cars and lorries.
They do occur but they seem to get far more publicity in the media than cars etc perhaps because they occur more often on major roads at peak holiday times.
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No...absolutley NO!

'Heavens sake..we are regulated enough, lets not go down this road.

 

 



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Other EU countries require caravan mot tests & they are registered with their own number plate. However most other countries only require test for cars & caravans at 4yrs old & every 2yrs thereafter.

German caravanners get their 'vans serviced every 2 yrs which includes tuv(mot)& gas test so no real problem. However secondhand prices for older caravans in most other EU countries are considerably higher than UK tho which might their reflect better condition due to testing requirement.



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"The one thing that makes it harder to police than MoTs on cars is that the car has it's own unique number plate. The police can check on this easily without the need to stop the motorist and can even be checked automatically with ANPR cameras."

Cloned plates......

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(or see MOTs as a fund raising exercise),

 I strongly feel that the more 'vaners chat about testing of 'vans, the more likley the powers that be will see it as an excuse to raise money, without making any difference to the overall safety of the roads. 

 Most 'vaners do have their vans serviced each year and as has been muted thiat serves as a "roadworthy check".

 That said, there are car users who do NOT have their cars mot'ed and just take a chance.

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27/6/2011 at 10:23pm
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Quote: Originally posted by D S B on 27/6/2011

I tend to agree with the majority here - don't think it is really necessary.  If you have your van serviced regularly the van is checked anyway. 


The problem is that some people for whatever reason, just dont bother servicing their van from year to year, some wrongfully think that nothing will deteriorate on a caravan, simply because of the low mileage they do per annum, how wrong they are.

Some dont even bother insuring their caravan, but for those who do, if they read the small print on their policy documents, quite a few will state that the cover will be null and void if the caravan is not regularly serviced and maintained by a competent engineer. With our insurance, this period is within 2 years of the last service, although we have ours annually serviced by an approved workshop, and get the badge on our front fairing with the workshops registration number, year and month serviced, and the word 'Passed' to prove this. 

I suppose this is the nearest the caravan industry has got to issuing a caravan with an MOT. Im wondering however if this scheme is some kind of a pilot to a future compulsory trailer MOT, they already have a registration number from the chasis and CRIS in the case of caravans.

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27/6/2011 at 10:38pm
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Sorry guys, from my understanding over 80% of caravans are not serviced on an annual basis. That's pretty worrying in anyones' book!

Roadworthyness is not about does the fridge work, or is there a water leek, even is the van damp. It's about do the brakes work, is the chassis sound, are the tyres safe, do the road lights work, is the whole thing structurally sound to be on the road. Lets face it, we've all seen plenty of examples where this is clearly not the case.

When you next walk round a dealer's secondhand forecort take a look at the dates of tyre manufacture, expressed as a 4 figure number where the first 2 figures represent the week in the year, the second two being the year. Caravan tyres should be replaced every 5 years or so (7 years absolutely maximum). Let me know your findings, and then consider should caravans have an offical test.

Asides from all the details, there are 2 overriding factors: we're talking about the safety of your family, and ensuring your hard earnt free time is not spoilt by poor care and maintenance.

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27/6/2011 at 10:48pm
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Mmmm, I pay for my caravan to be serviced every year, and I guess that this would only be an additional £30 on top for registration, just like a car.

However, the worryng thing with caravans and servicing is concerned is that as far as I can remember demand has always outstripped supply, everytime I try to book the van in there is always a wait of several months before there is a space.  So I wouldn't be suprised if the actual cost would turn out to be double that.

That being said, I know most of us take care of this ourselves, but I have seen vans with cracked tyres and worn safety cables etc, bits hanging off so I know not everyone takes the same car.  So from this perspective, even though I would not want to pay, it makes sense.  Possibly bi yearly, not yearly??

Are there any figures published on caravaning accidents anywhere?  Would be interesting to know just how many there are, and what the causes are.  Probably not.

Tony B



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Should caravans be mot'ed, registered with the DVLA & carry their own car sized numberplate on the back? Good sense would say yes. It can only improve safety & security.

Would most caravanners agree with the above? Absolutely not. Why? It would cost them more money.


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Will the man with the red flag please walk in front of the car, towing the caravan .

atb

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We have the equivalent of MOTs for caravans (and all trailers) in New Zealand, and they have their own unique number (registration) plates. As with cars, after the first 3 years of annual MOTs (no grace period), all vehicles (including all kinds of trailers) have to have an MOT every six months.
I travel the country a lot and , though I'm not saying that there is a correlation, I have yet to see a caravan inolved in an accident/ flipped etc. (except for the odd flat tyre)

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there is enough paid out to government for car mots and tax etc if they introduce more costs on the actual caravan i wont have one ,im sure there arent many of us who hook up and assume the van is road worthy,thought ive seen some scarey vans towed by some ,you think how the hell can that van be okay its falling to bits ,they are a minority so i say leave well alone on the mot front

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we all should remember that servicing isnt always upto standard, we have a few each year that have there wheel come off on there way back from having there van serviced. and to be honest how much is missed on a PDI inspection, from quite a few place's, and we all want to put our trust in these people, qualified or not.

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As I previously posted our local dealer has told me that it in the pipeline and will be implemented within the next
3-4 years , perhaps that's the reason why there extending there workshops from 3 bays to 9 in anticipation of the extra work testing caravans for fitness

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