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18/7/2011 at 9:42am
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In the case of someone disabled they can use their discretion to let someone have a bit longer to pack up and leave. Maybe this was the case where you were - that the other ppl just needed longer to pack up.

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Quote: Originally posted by Rallye550 on 18/7/2011

I joined the CC online survey group and participated in a survey and I got a snooty Email telling me that I wasn't in a position to make a comment about cancelling member ship as it was in my husbands name. I'm furious. We have a joint membership why should he be more important than me ? Just because he's the first name on the form. Bl**dy not PC I say.

I am puzzled how that could happen as I had always thought that the survey is handled by a specialist survey company not the CC. Did the comment from the CC come after you had completed the survey? Perhaps joint membership they only allows one log in per membership? You could always get the first named member to e-mail the Club for an explanation.

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I was at Maragowan CC last Setpember, every day they had a sign up letting by the exit you know what time you had to leave by, and most days it was well after 12, which I thought was a great idea and more sites should take it up, but I suppose it all depends on the Wardens at the time.


18/7/2011 at 10:18am
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On a local site recently thre rule was leave by 12, but there was an option to stay a few £'s and leave a bit later (this was not a club site btw). This was well stated in the T&C.

I think this is an issue of no clear stated policy.

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18/7/2011 at 12:24pm
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The thread has become a bit clouded by the expansion of reasons for not leaving at the prescribed rule of 'by 12 noon' (a rule laid down by the club; not wardens).  OK, in the event of illness, vehicle breakdown, etc., I would expect wardens and members alike to co-operate in a friendly and helpful manner to resolve a problem.

In the matter of a member booking an extra night to leave at 7:00 pm., the member could have a good reason for doing so, and it isn't in the remit of a warden to criticise.  The member has not violated club rules.

The comment that the couple may have needed longer to pack is not a good excuse.  we all know how long it takes us to pitch or pack up, so they should commence packing up eary enough.  Barring unforeseen circumstances, the 12 noon rule is paramount; it is up to campers to abide by it.

And wardens are in breech of their terms of employment if they give preferential treatment to individual members.

Bertie.



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18/7/2011 at 2:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by The 2 Tops on 18/7/2011

The thread has become a bit clouded by the expansion of reasons for not leaving at the prescribed rule of 'by 12 noon' (a rule laid down by the club; not wardens).  OK, in the event of illness, vehicle breakdown, etc., I would expect wardens and members alike to co-operate in a friendly and helpful manner to resolve a problem.

In the matter of a member booking an extra night to leave at 7:00 pm., the member could have a good reason for doing so, and it isn't in the remit of a warden to criticise.  The member has not violated club rules.

The comment that the couple may have needed longer to pack is not a good excuse.  we all know how long it takes us to pitch or pack up, so they should commence packing up eary enough.  Barring unforeseen circumstances, the 12 noon rule is paramount; it is up to campers to abide by it.

And wardens are in breech of their terms of employment if they give preferential treatment to individual members.

Bertie.


Hi,totaly agree,Bertie

Have used the Maragowan site on a good number of occasions,and have see this notice posted,vacate pitch by 1pm or 2pm,(good idea),this is all very well, as long as you remember the official time is 1200, and you my be asked to vacate pitch earlier than posted time on gate,due to unexpected arrivals,if any camper is afforded this privilige they should not get upset if asked to vacate earlier than the extended time,as this would be unfair on the new arrivals,who wish as much time on site as the next caravaner, Have had experience of waiting1hour for a pitch to be vacated, this was at Shell Bay(private site) a good number of years ago(I arrived at 1pm),the caravaners on that pitch had not been told there was a van going to use that pitch,felt sorry for the young couple and their 4young children,being put in that position by the site owners,turned out that the couple were regulars and they usally stayed on site till 4pm with owners consent,with a bit of fore sight they could have been all packed up and hooked up ready to go,incase their pitch was required.  So a very good reason for the 1200 departure time.



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18/7/2011 at 2:30pm
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Recently, in France, we made good time and turned up early at Chateau du Gandspette, where we had pre-booked for 3 nights.  Reception did not comment on us being early and we were directed to pitch 43.  Getting to the pitch, we found a Belgian with his van hitched up, and talking with another camper.  He just looked at us and carried on with his chat.  Being early we decided to wait, and were just about to position our outfit to be out of the way, when another camper came over and told us this Belgian had been on another pitch (not the one we were waiting for), but had just pulled onto our booked pitch.

As I looked at him again he jabbed his watch with his finger, so I just told him he shouldn't be on this pitch, and he'd better go.  With much mumbling, he went.  I should point out; had he been "officially" on the pitch allocated to us, I would then have expected to wait.

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18/7/2011 at 4:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 17/7/2011
This is another one of those posts that makes me never want to join the CC


Unbelievable

 

Only had limited experience so far but the CL's are great little sites that make it all worthwhile joining. Wardens and campers are just people and some ar nice and some are not.Camping is supposed to be fun - some people take life far too seriously in all aspects. !

 



18/7/2011 at 5:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 17/7/2011
This is another one of those posts that makes me never want to join the CC


Unbelievable

To be fair, I think that any downsides that might be found on C.C. sites can equally apply to any camping site; club or private.  If it is a bolshy warden, then you can report him/her to head office; always providing it isn't you who has caused an upset.   In the case of an unreasonable member, the warden has the option to refer that person to head office, and members can be banned if the incident is serious enough.

What I find difficult to understand are those members who outwardly show an attitude of not wishing to be friendly.  If that's how they feel, why not camp in their own back gardens?  I hate to say it, but it does appear to be a British thing.

Recently, at a French campsite, there were the occasional Brit, French and german, and lots of Dutch.  Everyone seemed to get along fine; even coping with struggling with the language barrier.  But one British couple (probably mid to late 60's) spoke to nobody.  They just sat outside their motorhome and stared at other campers as they passed; sometimes hiding behind a newspaper to discuss other people.    I wonder what they will tell friends (if they have any) about how they enjoyed France? 

Arriving back in the UK (Black Horse Farm) whilst most peolpe were sociable, there were the odd few who would 'walk the site' apparently sizing up the 'enemy', but immediately looking away if you showed signs of speaking.

Yes, Rune Caster,  I think I can understand your reasoning 

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18/7/2011 at 8:22pm
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thanks for the replys,i`m glad it`s not just me having a victor meldrew moment.

i havn`t got a problem with leaving at 12noon, as stated in the terms and conditions of booking

but i think the "you can stay on but don`t tell anyone" thing is wrong.it`s like the old school tie routine,and dont get me started on reserved pitch`s

tony

 



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I used to have an MD who would often have complaints at the staff forum that so and so were able to do this or that. Her answer was to give people the choice, equality of opportunity or equality of misery. If rules are going to be applied so strictly you will only ever get equality of misery. However if people accept that sometimes others will get an advantage it might be your turn next

David



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As a regular user of Caravan Club sites, I have never been on personal terms with any warden. Generally we will leave before 12 anyway, frequently earlier. On a couple of occasions I have asked if we need to leave on the dot and been told not to worry.

The problem with everybody staying late is obvious. A handful is neither here nor there, as there will be later arrivals. A warden has no reason not to accommodate a few people but it has to be limited. As David says, if you want perfect equality, it will be equality of misery.

Best not to see conspiracy everywhere - if you look for it, you'll find it whether it's there or not.

I wouldn't be a warden for £100,000 a year. Most of them are great, but they really can't win. The miserable ones probably didn't start off that way.



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we all pay same so we should be treated the same


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We had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago when staying at the Wirral CC site.
We asked if we were able to stay but one of the wardens told us they were fully booked and would need to be off by 12, we thought this strange as they had 18 pitches available when we looked the day before.
As we like the site, we casually asked a different warden for future reference if this was regular that they fully booked on a Sun at short notice, he re-checked and told us we would stay til 6pm for the cost of a pitch fee only.
I have in the past paid the extra night just to stay til 6pm and feel it unfair when some are able to stay for free, there should surely be a set system.


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Quite a few of the C&CC site we have stayed on have enforced the "depart by 12:00" and "do not arrive before 12:00" rules very strictly because the have fairly long and narrow drives to approach. Imagine the issues of trying to pass!!


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Quote: Originally posted by Fat Belly on 18/7/2011
Quite a few of the C&CC site we have stayed on have enforced the "depart by 12:00" and "do not arrive before 12:00" rules very strictly because the have fairly long and narrow drives to approach. Imagine the issues of trying to pass!!
Blimey yes. This is a real problem at the West Runton C&CC site. The drive there is long, narrow and winding with passing places. While chatting to one of the wardens there he told us about a late departure meeting an arrival half way up the lane. Neither could reverse, both ended up jack-knifed one way or another, it took about 2 hours to sort out and during that time no-one could enter or exit the site. Just goes to show that having a mover doesn't make up for reversing skills!

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