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Subject Topic: SOLAR PANELS FOR CARAVANS ???
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21/10/2011 at 4:48pm
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Thanks for coming back and taking the trouble to reply. You wouldn't be the first to make one post touting for business and I don't expect you would be the last.

If you go onto a rally field, you will see the number of Maplin 13 watt solar brief cases is growing all the time and the number of generators is (fortunately) reducing, albeit at a much slower pace.

I know several people who have a fixed solar panel on their caravan roof, some people have more than one. These tend to be between 50 to 100 watts, but some people have bigger ones, depending on the amount of unobstructed roof space they have.

I have a 13 watt Maplins solar brief case and find it drastically increases the amount of time I can run on battery, bordering on indefinately if my usage is minimal through the summer.

I am seriously considering a fixed panel to go on my caravan roof however, as being flat on the roof it is never in the shade, even if someone parks in front of you and can be topping up the battery all the time, not relying on my connecting it up on arrival.

As I mentioned earlier, I have seen them on eBay for a little over £100 for a 50 watt panel; if you can compete then you have your first order from UKCS.


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Cheers I will look in to it ... The units I can get are 240 watts.


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21/10/2011 at 6:13pm
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Do you have the physical dimensions for those? They sound a bit over kill for a caravan, but I guess you can never have too much electricity available. The biggest concern with a panel of that size would be where it could be mounted. Most caravans have roof lights in which would be in the way of a large panel which is possibly why a lot of people go for two smaller panels.


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1.7 m x 1m


21/10/2011 at 9:01pm
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Thank you for replying - it was starting to look strange, if you are thinking of static caravans I think there is a separate section for posts to do with them and it may be worth you posting there.



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Far too big and heavy to carry around. Remember caravans have a low payload. A suitcase type and size is ideal and even better if it has a locking device that allows you to lock it onto some part of the caravan.


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I think we can get smaller units il check as I say just started with this solar panel lark ...


21/10/2011 at 9:51pm
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I lived in a very sunny country but solar panels were not very popular due to cost and the fact you were lucky to recoup your outlay within your lifetime.
The writing is on the wall for this government to drop all subsidies and grants regarding solar panels and wind farms. A wise move in my opinion as it is costing the taxpayer millions and many people are losing their jobs over it and the cost of carbon credits.
You would be wise to look for another avenue of work. Please don't take this the wrong way as I am hoping it will be helpful advice.
I have links to various articles regarding this this which have been written very recently. The article I have on this info is far too long to post on this forum unfortunately but recently featured in the Times, Financial times and others including the BBC.


22/10/2011 at 9:57am
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I'm of a similar opinion to Surfer in that the government grants were designed to kick start the renewables business and reduce the overall costs until such time as the economies of scale brought down the costs to an economic level. Unfortunately it has been seen by many as a way of making money at the expense of those who can't afford the initial outlay or do not have a property suitable to affix panels to. Hopefully an intensive research and development programme throughout the world will lead to more cost effective panels or even windows etc with pv built into them. Short term to ideal solution is simply to use less electricity by using more efficient equipment and better house lighting and insulation. A simple example of this is if PC's were to be designed to use ARM processors and solid state disk drives their power consumption would be less than half of a standard desk top PC.

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22/10/2011 at 4:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by geukdirect on 21/10/2011
1.7 m x 1m


Absolutely no way that would fit between the obstructions on a caravan roof and much too big to be considered portable.

In order to be likely to fit on a caravan roof, you should be aiming for something under 1m square. Something you would find quite difficult to find in anything over 100 watts. This is why a lot of people use multiple smaller panels.

Your panels may well be suitable for a static caravan, I really don't know what sort of obstructions these have in their roofs, but if you ever looked at a caravan from above you would see that even the smallest ones usually have a minimum of two roof lights and an aerial in them. Mine has 3 standard roof lights, one large Heiki opening and an aerial. This does not leave any large areas at all. I am currently looking at one of these on eBay which at 754mm x 680mm will just about squeeze between the obstructions on my roof. I have a 6 amp regulator that came with the Maplins briefcase solar panel that should handle a 50 watt panel if my calculations are correct.


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I have just had 16 panels fitted on my house, they are capable of producing 4 kilowatt,The panels are santo, the inverter was imported from Israel, through the day my house is on free electricity,wife does her washing, ironing, tv on etc, and it is still generating to the grid, I get paid by my energy company 43p a unit, which also rises with inflation, new builds only get 35p, In April 2012 the government are putting the clamp on by cutting these payments to new insulations. I think it's crazy. There are company's out there offering free panels & inverter, but your roof is there's for 25 hrs, all you get is free electric but no payment to you! they are rakeing the money in. But if you can afford the insulation , it's better then money doing nothing in the bank.
I am looking for a good panel & inverter for the caravan, it is on a seasonal pitch, so weight isn't an issue, I was so supprised how heavy these panels are.
Don't forget if you are fitting a panel, it needs to be south facing or near as .

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Bill, you say you get free electric during the day. Somehow experience has taught me that this is generally not the case. If it was true why are companies touting that you will save £60 - £100 off your annual not monthly bill? Not my words, theirs.
If it was so good why don't all houses in sunny countries have solar panels fitted. generally panels produce only just enough to heat your hot water every day with a little to spare.
Solar panels are okay as a means of topping up but you certainly could not run a household on solar panels unless you had a field of them outside.


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Surfer 01 you are right, we are looking in to it and if we had everything on at the same time it would be drawing more that the panels produce, so the answer is to run one machine (in daylight hours) at a time.  Though what we have found out electricity companies at present assume you are exporting 50% of electricity from PV. Despite a 3kw emersion heater or electric kettle using most of the out put at peak times - but then you would not have them on all the time. Plus at when it’s dark there is no free electricity so it also depends on lifestyle.

This could also have negative side effect with some people with PV on roofs trying to use as much of their free electricity as possible, which could increase electricity demand.

Re hot water its estimated 50% of your household needs could come from solar thermal as opposed to PV in this country.

PV is only worth considering as the Government is currently offering such a large subsidy. This has increased the market, but there has been a negative effect of people jumping in to the market to reap the rewards in the sort term, who haven’t got the necessary skills or experience for this technology. It’s very worrying how many double glazing companies are offering it. Then when you delve many of the companies with the necessary registration are actually using other people to install it.

The other concern is that when the market settles, a number of these companies may go out of business potentially leaving people without warranties for their systems or someone to go back to if the systems develops a problem.

 

 



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All very interesting stuff but the OP is already in the business looking to expand into caravans. You don't see many statics that are not connected to the national grid so I don't see that as a big move from the domestic market. Tourers are a different kettle of fish. They require less power but are not subject to the subsidies. This is a niche market but if someone were sourcing the parts at the right price they could do very well, especially if they could get contracts with the manufacturers or dealers to fit them to new caravans


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Quote: Originally posted by DaveCoaches on 24/10/2011
All very interesting stuff but the OP is already in the business looking to expand into caravans. You don't see many statics that are not connected to the national grid so I don't see that as a big move from the domestic market. Tourers are a different kettle of fish. They require less power but are not subject to the subsidies. This is a niche market but if someone were sourcing the parts at the right price they could do very well, especially if they could get contracts with the manufacturers or dealers to fit them to new caravans

Generally statics are connected to the owners supply, i.e HH metering. Each caravan is then fitted with a meter and the owner charges accordingly. If a static had solar panels fitted, it is only the owner of the park that will benefit and not the owner of the static. basically statics are out of the equation and so are touring caravans as the panels are far too big!


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Just got to argue with solars for tourers,  ours not seen an EHU all summer.  With the right gear self sufficiency is easy.   Also judging by how many other vans were on the THS, Rallies we are not alone. 

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