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Personjohn&lynn
09/2/2012 at 11:16am
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All these scams require somebody daft enough to pay upfront for something they have not seen using methods other than Paypal. Most of these scams are for lower value items like laptops & phones etc.

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Got to agree it never fails to amaze how some people need to be protected from there own stupidity ,



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I found a similar scam involving folding campers on ebay a couple of years ago. They were usually listed as for sale in the Shetland Isles but the seller would arrange delivery etc. As with the caravans the price was too good to be true.

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yeah ... well .. we are the stupid ones.... we don't need to be reminded of that. Perhaps we aren't used to dealing with scum on a daily basis and so are naïve! We have just lost £2700 to this scum bag. Everything seemed kosher and we didn't suspect the authentic looking emails from ebay - or the promises of payment protection. yes we were idiots for not using paypal... we have paid the price. We were stupidly blinded by the fact that we had 3 excited little boys and the hopes of balmy summer days in our beautiful new camper. instead,our stupidity and naivety has led us to having 3 distraught little boys who had shared their news of their new camper arriving today at school! We are fully aware of our stupidity - our sad little boys help to remind us!


PersonJack+Jon
23/10/2013 at 7:30am
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But what on earth possessed you to pay upfront for a camper you had not actually seen? The usual way of buying any vehicle is to go & view it, check it's condition & then pay for it after ascertaining as best you can it is the seller's to sell.

Even if you bid on ebay or answer a classified without seeing the vehicle you don't part with cash before you see it & once you have paid you drive it or tow it away.

Also one needs to be cautious arriving at an ebay purchase carrying a large amount of cash. Another scam is to avertise an upmarket car cheaply & when the buyer arrives he gets attacked & robbed of the cash.

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J+J I don't think there is any need to go over what samg now know or realise!

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How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
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I've bought many vehicles off ebay unseen and paid upfront and used a delivery firm to bring it to me. You just need to be street wise. Infact from my dealings it's actually pretty difficult to get a genuine seller to accept payment up front without even seeing the buyer.

If on the otherhand they are suggesting payment up front then run like the wind. Usually it takes me several emails and phone calls to get them to accept my offer.


PersonJack+Jon
23/10/2013 at 12:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 23/10/2013
J+J I don't think there is any need to go over what samg now know or realise!

I'm just struggling to understand the thought process of anybody who sends off several £1000s for an item they have not seen & have no proof actually exists.

But yes, one must also beware of a buyer who offers to pay several £1000s sight unseen for a car(for example)that one is selling. There is a scam that involves a 'buyer' paying over the odds for a vehicle & asking the seller send some of the excess overseas once the 'cheque has cleared' & relies on seller not understanding that a cleared cheque can be in fact 'uncleared' by their bank at a later date.

When buying or selling high value items on ebay, believe only what you see with your own eyes & even then take sensible precautions.



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PersonWhite Rose
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Quote: Originally posted by Jack+Jon on 23/10/2013
Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 23/10/2013J+J I don't think there is any need to go over what samg now know or realise!

I'm just struggling to understand the thought process of anybody who sends off several £1000s for an item they have not seen & have no proof actually exists.



But that's what buying online is all about, surely? We do it based on pictures of what we believe and hope we are buying and, until it actually does go wrong, few people think about the reality of what could happen because on the surface it all seems so straightforward. To me, it's no harder to understand those thought processes than those of someone who spends several thousand pounds on a caravan but doesn't even check it for damp - but many many people do just that.

We do now live in a world where all sorts of commodities are bought and sold virtually (in fact, there are some allegedly very smart people in the City making many millions buying and selling things that may or may not exist!).

I think it's just taking genuine people a long while to understand that there's a whole lot of people on the internet who are completely and utterly not what or whom they seem to be. And although it's flippin lovely to have such an uncynical and trusting outlook, sometimes it means that some nasty sod will come along and take advantage - whether in the real world or the virtual one. But that's not the fault of the one who has been defrauded, it's the fault of the criminal committing the theft.


Personrollsroyce
23/10/2013 at 3:26pm
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H ha LISA wanted to buy my Aprilia RSV about a year ago, so "SHE" is still conning people then,


Personrollsroyce
23/10/2013 at 3:30pm
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SORRY, i didn't mean the "ha ha" as a derogatory remark against anyone who has been conned by these low lifes, kc


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PersonJack+Jon
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Its about risk, obviously buying lower value items online either from well known retailers or from ebay with paypal is ok but it has got to the stage where one has to treat every email or phonecall as a scam unless you know it ain't. Not really paranoia, just good sense, I take the default position that any email/phone call from anybody offering me anything is to their advantage not mine, otherwise why would they bother? So delete or put down phone after reading/hearing first few lines.

I suppose if you understand the dynamics its pretty obvious what is a scam on ebay even just by reading the listing never mind the cheap price, but even here one can take the default position that there are very few genuine bargains on ebay, most things sell for about what they are worth & be suspicious about anything that is too cheap.

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Quote: Originally posted by samgallop on 23/10/2013
yeah ... well .. we are the stupid ones.... we don't need to be reminded of that. Perhaps we aren't used to dealing with scum on a daily basis and so are naïve! We have just lost £2700 to this scum bag. Everything seemed kosher and we didn't suspect the authentic looking emails from ebay - or the promises of payment protection. yes we were idiots for not using paypal... we have paid the price. We were stupidly blinded by the fact that we had 3 excited little boys and the hopes of balmy summer days in our beautiful new camper. instead,our stupidity and naivety has led us to having 3 distraught little boys who had shared their news of their new camper arriving today at school! We are fully aware of our stupidity - our sad little boys help to remind us!
Why does this feel like a spam post ??


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Quote: Originally posted by arcticfox on 23/10/2013
Quote: Originally posted by samgallop on 23/10/2013
yeah ... well .. we are the stupid ones.... we don't need to be reminded of that. Perhaps we aren't used to dealing with scum on a daily basis and so are naïve! We have just lost £2700 to this scum bag. Everything seemed kosher and we didn't suspect the authentic looking emails from ebay - or the promises of payment protection. yes we were idiots for not using paypal... we have paid the price. We were stupidly blinded by the fact that we had 3 excited little boys and the hopes of balmy summer days in our beautiful new camper. instead,our stupidity and naivety has led us to having 3 distraught little boys who had shared their news of their new camper arriving today at school! We are fully aware of our stupidity - our sad little boys help to remind us!
Why does this feel like a spam post ??



Yes, kinda thought that too!


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Also, just re-read the posting, 9 times out of 10 it is written in "pigeon english" (not the "kings english")just by reading the post you can tell its a scam


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My husband fell for one of them scams not on a caravan though it was a bang and olufsen hi fi it was 7 years ago and he paid £750 through western union for a hi fi that didn't exist I begged him not to send the money we weren't really aware of internet scams then but it didn't seem right to me ( they spun the same yarn I'm out of the country I'll get my wife to ship it ) in this case it was Nigerian scammers and when my husband emailed him fuming he sent one back saying ha ha ha merry Christmas I can't believe how easy it was to burn you ,yes it was a few weeks before Christmas, I never stopped saying I told you so to hubby and it was definatley a lesson learned we were gutted

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we saw a caravan on ebay last year looking at your post it was the same lady i nearly went for it we where both excited about the caravan what being our first caravan because I always rushed into things with out thinking on this occasion my wife mentioned to me about rushing into things and to keep the peace at home I walked away glad I did now close shave.



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