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Subject Topic: Talk to me about Geist
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14/3/2012 at 6:30pm
 Location: Cheshire
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Oh I'll keep looking for sure. They are superb vans

It's a shame to see one so badly treated. On the surface it looked fine but it didn't take much looking to see the damage. It was fixable but I'd never have been happy with it.

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14/3/2012 at 9:46pm
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Out of interest, what was the damage or bodged repairs?

I ask because I'm a dodgy DIYer and I've done some minor repairs to my Geist (strengthened under-bed slats, repaired side-dinette table) - just interested what is bad enough to give up on a sale....


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15/3/2012 at 7:26am
 Location: Cheshire
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This dodgy DIYer has twisted the entire cupboard assembly on the left side by installing a stereo. All the structure is damaged and it's cracking at the fixed points. It looks like the cupboard has been forced back in the wrong position.

There's signs of a heavy handed owner all over it from the shredded front blind to the cracked shower.

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15/3/2012 at 8:12am
 Location: S E Hampshire
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Oh, that bad! What a shame. If the basic structure seemed affected, I fully understand your conccerns and I reckon most of us would have done the same in walking off. I too would not have the time or expertise to repair up to 100%. 


15/3/2012 at 8:36am
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Yes I'm not worried about the replaceable items.

You've got the same model I think. It's the entire cupboard assembly from the 'chimney' across to the door. The cupboard to store the table won't shut properly it's so twisted and all of the blanking plugs have popped out and won't stay back in. There's something rather worrying about it all.


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15/3/2012 at 8:50am
 Location: sunny nottingham
 Outfit: Lunar Clubman
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Sounds like a no no! Don't give up - have you looked on caravan club website classified section? There are two 485s on there one in Avon and one in Cambridge,


15/3/2012 at 8:57am
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I have seen them. They are a bit far away and to be honest until we had a nose at the 485 we weren't even thinking about changing.

At least my van has been stripped out and thoroughly cleaned ready for this season - just have to load it back up again now


15/3/2012 at 8:46pm
 Location: S E Hampshire
 Outfit: Knaus Starclass 565
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Ho Hum, just relax in the knowledge that you've avoided a great disappointment and financial loss!


16/3/2012 at 1:46pm
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It turns out that the van has had chassis replacement. I may have been too hasty in criticising the DIYer.

The model was subject to a recall it seems. I had only heard of that in relation to the 5 series.

Another thing to look out for when I find another one

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16/3/2012 at 3:14pm
 Location: S E Hampshire
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Umm, how did you hear about the recall?  When was/is it? I ask as I have no knowledge of this. Can't find it on the 'net and, of course, the muppets at the past importers won' tell me anything. All info.gratefully received.


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18/3/2012 at 8:33pm
 Location: Cheshire
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Sorry for not replying sooner. I read about the problems on a couple of forums. One person had warping in a Lv485.

I have no definite information about a recall I'm afraid other than a quick mention in a phone call.

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21/3/2012 at 4:00pm
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I've been looking at the pictures of all of the LV485's for sale at the moment and I can see signs of warping in all of the interior shots where there are any.

Check your vans Geist owners!

I've gone off them a bit

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21/3/2012 at 6:27pm
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Good advice. My info gleaned from hours of surfing is that the only affected 'vans were the early production run 03-05 which had a BPW chassis cut back yoo much after the wheelarch. Easy check is to grab the 'fidge - if it moves - go away, check for dust  (wood dust) on the top of the work surface at the bottom of the "chimney panel" and finally (!) check that the door on the table cupboard closes squarely. The number which were so affected/afflicted is small. The above checks should ensure safety. Then, get a decent torch, crawl under the 'van on your back, just in front of the wheel - even a fat waster like me can do this - and look across the 'van to the opposite side  just behind the axle. There is a large nut, painted red. Any fractures appear around this area. I hope this helps!


23/3/2012 at 11:56am
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OK, sit up and pay attention!

I have now had a long informative call with BPW, who were very frank, open and very informative regarding this particular issue. The Chassis for the LV485 was - like all models - specified by Geist. The steel thickness was specified to keep the chassis weight low. This is confirmed by many other posters on other forum across the world. Some, but not all of the LV485 had fractures, BPW supplied replacements of a thicker guage steel in order to maintain their reputation - NOT Gesit's!

So, if there is a problem it can be sorted, hopefully before furniture and internal damage has occurred. There was never a recall for the LV485 model.

There we are, an end to this saga - at least it will be when I get my new rails fitted. I had seen some internal movement, but corrected by myself - blaming "she who must be obeyed" for over loading the 'fridge (oops! bit of grovelling needed here)

Here's hoping for another few years of 'vanning in a 'van which has been just what we needed over the past seven years. We do not want to change it!

 



23/3/2012 at 5:13pm
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Thanks for that useful post. It's interesting that there was never a recall.

I feel a bit more confident that if I see one without internal damage then it's worth a closer look.



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