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28/7/2013 at 10:42am
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Quote: Originally posted by uxb443 on 28/7/2013
Quote: Originally posted by lunarvenus on 27/7/2013...... as the electrics aren't serviceable...........



Electrical systems are definitely serviceable.

Each circuit can be tested to ensure continuity and good insulation and RCDs can be readily checked with the correct equipment to ensure operating within design parameters.

Individual appliances can also be checked (PAT - portable appliance testing).

Testing can/should also cover a variety of other factors.

I hope you are on top of the problem now.





I understand what you are saying, but what you said is not servicing its testing, servicing would include cleaning or adjust, renewing a part.
You can buy the testing equipment and test yourself.
I am happy with the very basic wiring and 5 sockets that we have, plus the McB is working fine as it trips when there is a problem.
My appliances are working fine also as they all work fine individualy.
Its only when you use two High powered items at the same time which we try not to at any time as stated in first post.
I just wanted to know if it was a possibility that I could change the mcb so it would trip the hook up point like my old van did rather than the McB in the van as its hard to get to especially when your in the middle of cooking.


28/7/2013 at 12:16pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lunarvenus on 27/7/2013
Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 27/7/2013

Quoted by uxb443:  I find that electric kettles are often a likely source of problems.

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I agree as we had this problem recently at home when we switched on the kettle so I had to buy a new one which solved the problem.

Having a kettle with a power output of 1.7 kilowatts doesn't help as this kind of power is for domestic use as the majority of campsites have a lower amperage output that's why we use a low voltage kettle for use in the caravan with less than half that amount of power at only 7,500 watts. It may take a little longer to boil but at least we can use other appliances (excluding microwave) and don't have to keep resetting the MCB switches because we are trying to consume too much energy simultaneously. What you have to remember is that at home you can demand power without any problems but whilst on a campsite you have to adapt accordingly and use the electrical resources efficiently. 





A 1.7kw kettle ???



No, 7.5 kW!


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28/7/2013 at 1:18pm
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Not 7.5 kilowatts, 7,500 watts. There may some confusion as to what rating kettle we use in our caravan that I mentioned in my earlier post. It's a low wattage kettle bought from a caravan accessory shop which is 7,500 watts which is actually three quarters of a kilowatt and designed specially to be able to use on camp sites with a lower EHU supply.


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I think the confusion arises from your figures, 7.500 is either 7 1/2 watts ( doubt that would boil ) or 7500 watts (32A!) ibelieve it should be 750 watts.

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28/7/2013 at 6:04pm
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 28/7/2013

I think the confusion arises from your figures, 7.500 is either 7 1/2 watts ( doubt that would boil ) or 7500 watts (32A!) ibelieve it should be 750 watts.

Saxo1







Yes you are quite right, the kettle is 750 watts as I have a Honda 650 watt generator that's not powerful enough to run it so we have to boil a kettle on gas. Sorry, my apologies for that.



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29/7/2013 at 12:12pm
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I've just come back from a site where we were on a splitter with another caravan. They had just bought the van, hadn't a clue about anything... their hook-up was plugged into a 4-way household extension lead which then fed into the van via another extension plugged into that.. Then there was the rapid boil 2 ltr kettle and household microwave. I did mention that it would be better not to use both at the same time (as you also have a fridge on as well) but they tripped the electric at least once a day. I'm surprised the warden didn't forbid him to use the EHu system he had. The warden brought over a good EHU lead, but he didn't use it, preferring his own. He had already tried mine, as his system kept blowing 3-pin plug fuses. And the whole kit and caboodle was just shoved underneath the caravan.

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OH....DEAR!!

He should be banned from using EHU till he gets his act together.

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29/7/2013 at 7:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lunarvenus on 26/7/2013OK, what trip switch should I have in the van, I think there is either two or three there but the one for the socket trips if I use the kettle with toaster or microwave or George foreman etc.



There could be other things connected to your sockets mcb, such as the water heater, the fridge or a heater system.



29/7/2013 at 9:54pm
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Quote: Originally posted by freeatlast on 29/7/2013
Quote: Originally posted by lunarvenus on 26/7/2013OK, what trip switch should I have in the van, I think there is either two or three there but the one for the socket trips if I use the kettle with toaster or microwave or George foreman etc.


There could be other things connected to your sockets mcb, such as the water heater, the fridge or a heater system.





I think the fridge is on a separate one.


30/7/2013 at 9:19am
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Quote: Originally posted by jennifernn on 29/7/2013OH....DEAR!!

He should be banned from using EHU till he gets his act together.



My thoughts entirely! And the warden didn't insist that he used the proper EHU lead that he had brought over to lend him for the week. If I had been the warden, I wouldn't have let him use a system like that.

Quote: Originally posted by lunarvenus on 26/7/2013OK, what trip switch should I have in the van, I think there is either two or three there but the one for the socket trips if I use the kettle with toaster or microwave or George foreman etc.

Lunar - wouldn't it just be simpler not to use the kettle at the same time as anything else, or just get a low wattage kettle? If you keep forgetting and putting them on altogether, then using a gas kettle on the hob might be the answer.

I can see it would be better for the EHu to trip at the point rather than in the caravan, if it's awkward to get to the trip switch in there, but tripping it out every day is not good either, espeically if it trips the whole circuit and cuts other users off as well. JMHO.

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