I used to run a rally not far from home once a year for a specific caravan club I was a member of and each year the landowner promoted the actions of recycling. There were three different colour recycling bins and one for non recycling on the rally field so caravanners didn't have far to walk to dispose of their waste to which the attending members were asked to recycle as much as possible. There were members that returned year on year and after 3 years one particular member asked where the recycling bins were. When I asked the landowner why there were no longer any recycling bins on site his response was that the local council were now charging him for the privilege so only one bin was now provided for all rubbish. This meant that after a few days the bin was over flowing with rubbish so cardboard and paper etc. was being strewn across the field making it look untidy.
The majority of us want to play our part in recycling when out in our units and it goes hand in hand with the site owner which has to be encouraged by the council but if the council then decide to change their policy and make charges then it goes hand in hand that we all eventually lose interest in doing what's good for the environment.
Personally I'm an avid recycler but it's out of our control and can do nothing when the provision are not available to us.
We don't all have the same point of view as at home I wash everything out before recycling but the wife doesn't so apparently it can sometimes cause a debate on the issue because she is convinced that the recycled rubbish eventually ends up in the same pile and that the council just make it look good on the streets.
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Rinsing out yogurt pots etc is ok if you have washing up water but as a lot of people have dishwashers then washing up water isn't always available at home. It then uses more water and costs if you are on a meter. On site, you always have washing up water so no excuse not to rinse. The only thing with yogurt pots not all councils take them. Ours has changed now but it didn't used to take yogurt pots.
Quote: Originally posted by Sproz on 12/1/2015
The site we were on last year recycled everything until the bin lorry came and tipped each bin in the same lorry, even the site owner looked bemused!
Not as daft as it sounds. If it was a private contractor then they will have their own process of separating waste at their depot to ensure correct separation as recycling contaminated with other product is devalued. Recycling firms make their profits from separating all recyclables & landfilling minimum possible due to high cost of landfill tax.
Just about everything is recycled in the end even if it is all thrown in same skip at disposal point. Due to amount of incorrect product placed in recycling bins it is often more cost effective to separate at depot.
Quote: Originally posted by sooty on 12/1/2015
Rinsing out yogurt pots etc is ok if you have washing up water but as a lot of people have dishwashers then washing up water isn't always available at home. It then uses more water and costs if you are on a meter. On site, you always have washing up water so no excuse not to rinse. The only thing with yogurt pots not all councils take them. Ours has changed now but it didn't used to take yogurt pots.
Sounds like a mix up of priorities. One the one hand, prepared to use lashings of metred water for the dishwasher, but miserly about an insignificant amount of water to clean products for recycling.
We prefer to wash dishes the "old fashioned way". Ecologically more friendly, and the dishes actually cleaner.
Bertie.
I can`t believe that in the 21st century we have to wash our rubbish before it is recycled/buried, don`t mind cans bottles etc but the bloody foil containers you get with lasagne etc are hard to clean and after you have done them they are probably sent to incinerators or buried, on the point of firms separating recycled items how come councils don't allow small electrical items like irons hair dryers etc in there blue bins they say it contaminates them and before I get a bucketful from the greens etc I do recycle very efficiently its councils who don`t
Our council does recycle the aluminium foil containers. Keith, what are the "blue bins" actually for? (we don't have these).
For us, ALL electrical items have to be disposed of by personally taking them to the recycling dept., along with dry batteries and energy-saving bulbs.
There are several shops in our area where we can drop off dry batteries, but the bulbs are a pain - who drives to the tip to drop of one or two bulbs?
Bertie.
The 2 Tops we have a blue lid bin for recycling cardboard, plastic, foil and glass bottles, green lid bin for garden and food waste and grey bin for all other waste, to have to take bulbs and small electrical items to the tip defeats the object of recycling as we are adding to the pollution etc.
Keith
Keith, our household refuse is collected weekly - allowance is 3 plastic waste sacks, or a dustbin and 2 sacks. Also collected weekly are paper and cardboard in brown plastic sacks, and tins and recyclable plastic in green plastic sacks. No limit for these, and collectors supply rolls of these sacks as and when a request note is stuck to a sack. Bottles and glass collected fortnightly in plastic crate, alternating with fortnightly collected garden waste, allowed x4 sacks, which are reusable and supplied by council.
From what we have heard from people in other areas, we seem to be getting a good service.
Bertie.
We have the same bins as kpnuts81 but also a brown bin for food waste (a much smaller one with a little bin for in the kitchen) and get small plastic bags for batteries and larger ones for small electrical items which have to be placed on top of the blue bin.
The site we have been on only recycles glass bottles so I just put paper and card in a carrier and tin cans in another and take them home to recycle.
I am an avid recycler, and put empty containers in the dishwasher with the dishes. They come out sparkling, ready for the recycling bin.
However I have commented on here before about campers not recycling, mainly in France where we mostly camp. And it's not the Brits, we are often the only ones, but the Germans and Dutch. I would have expected better of those two races.
"...but the Germans and the Dutch. I would have expected better of them"....
About 3 years ago we were staying at a French campsite - Cireselles, near to Auxerre, and I was having trouble finding the chemical emptying point. Another Brit told me where it was and, when I said it should be made more obvious, he told me that a few days previous he had been in the amenity block and saw a German emptying his toilet down one of the sinks. He didn't say whether it was a food preparation/washing-up sink, or one for doing laundry. Yuk!!!
Bertie.
Quote: Originally posted by franbee on 14/1/2015
However I have commented on here before about campers not recycling, mainly in France where we mostly camp. And it's not the Brits, we are often the only ones, but the Germans and Dutch. I would have expected better of those two races.
As indicated earlier in the thread, just because nothing is 'recycled' on the campsite does not mean the waste is not separated & recycled once it is transported away. Requiring the public to separate their waste does cut costs to an extent further up the chain but only if recyclate is not contaminated with other waste.
Campers travelling around Europe often find the different methods employed confusing. Some require plastic bottle & metal tins in same container, others require separation of plastic bottles & other plastic containers etc. As methods & mechanisation improves then separation of product at waste depot becomes more cost effective.
But when recycling bins are supplied, how difficult is it to comply with the instructions, and not just throw eveything in the overflowing rubbish bin? It's just being thoughtless or lazy.