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Subject Topic: What do you keep in your front locker??
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22/2/2016 at 11:22am
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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 22/2/2016
Generally, the more noseweight up to caravan limit the better the caravan will tow so provided you have a towcar that will allow over caravan max noseweight limit then you can put more or less what you want in front locker. So with a heavy 4x4 that allows say, 140kg on towbar then ok.

The problems may come when you try to tow a heavy caravan with a car that only allows 75kg on the towbar, thats when you may get poor stability that can only be corrected by increasing noseweight so rendering towcar unsuitable even though weight wise it can legally tow the caravan.

So sensible idea would be to increase noseweight for better tow within limits of caravan/car. This is why US caravans that are only towed by trucks & US size Suv's have axles set further back than European caravans.



The nose weight point is not strictly true opensauce, the max nose weight for any van with an Alko stabiliser is 100KG, irrespective of what your car max weight is.


22/2/2016 at 12:16pm
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Like many others, as little as possible.

Have just changed our standard 6kg propane cylinder for the 'Lite' version (which costs only £3.00 more than the heavy one so is a "no-brainer" as far as I'm concerned).

Also only take one cylinder even though there is room for two because we're never away long enough to be likely to run out. That immediately saved me 16kg or so.

Apart from that, watering can (for filling toilet flush), wellies, and the gas spanner.



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22/2/2016 at 12:41pm
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If the car and caravan are bouncing a bit, like the caravan is trying to catch up with the car, is that generally the nose weight is to heavy??


22/2/2016 at 4:30pm
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Quote: Originally posted by checkley1973 on 22/2/2016
The nose weight point is not strictly true opensauce, the max nose weight for any van with an Alko stabiliser is 100KG, irrespective of what your car max weight is.


What I said, read my post again...Up to max weight caravan/car.



22/2/2016 at 4:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by andyd99 on 22/2/2016
If the car and caravan are bouncing a bit, like the caravan is trying to catch up with the car, is that generally the nose weight is to heavy??



It could be - that sounds like pitching (front to back). however could be a number of other reasons. you just need to aim for max noseweight for your outfit ideally 5/6% of loaded weight and ensure heavy items over axles low down
just as important to check tyre pressures on car and van and loading in car is Ok


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Op needs to post up full details of towcar & caravan weights. As pointed out, could be incorrect tyre pressures or even hitch damper had it or car rear shocks worn/leaking.


22/2/2016 at 8:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by checkley1973 on 21/2/2016
Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 21/2/2016Hi

2 x gas bottle
2 x electrical lead 25m
2 x plastic leveling block
2 x wheel chocks
wheel/steady brace
nose weight gauge
Toilet blue
Pegs etc
Water grey waste pipes
2 x blue Water pipes
2 x Aqua roll handles
Water butt float
towing mirrors

Maybe i need to have a sort out lol



Have you checked your nose weight with that gauge ??




Yes 97kg last time i checked

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22/2/2016 at 10:21pm
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Oo-er!

6Kg Propane Bottle
Wheel ramps
EHU lead
Green & Pink Toilet Additives
Football (Grandson)
Foldable BBQ
BBQ Briquettes
7.5m Waste Hose
7.5m Blue Water Hose + float & fittings
Noseweight Gauge
Plastic Watering Can
Rock Pegs
Cordless Drill for Steadies

Towing mirrors are stored but obviously on the car when towing. Heavy stuff like security wheel and hitch locks go in the car when on the move.

A bit of too-ing and fro-ing and noseweight is 85Kg.

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Camping Gear expands so as to fill the space available for its transportation.



23/2/2016 at 8:11pm
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Moved it today lol i said 97kg
Anyway its only winter storage stuff in it, so tested nose weight and went past max of 90 but did not bottom out on the gauge, so i would say around 110kg
Once sorted for the new season i try to run at around 90 to max of 100kg

Just thought i did throw in the alko wheel lock, hitch lock etc when i moved it so made it bloody more heavy lol

Post last edited on 23/02/2016 20:18:56

Post last edited on 23/02/2016 20:19:22

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26/2/2016 at 1:27pm
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Our front locker is stuffed full of crap, i have clear out more or less every time we go away, but its still stuffed full so here goes

1x spare wheel
2x calor light bottles
1x hook up lead 25m
1x hook up extension 15m with three sockets
1x peg bag
1x 3lb mallet
1x rubber mallet
2x dogs bowls
2x wind breaks
1x large adjustable wrnech
1x spare water pump
2z 1ltr toilet fluids
1x awning draught skirt large
1x awning draught skirt small
1x tie down kit
1x ariel
1x 12ft extension poles for ariel
+ other smaller bits a bobs

Our nose wt is 85Kgs and we run at 80 Kgs. Van is extremely well balanced, and tows perfectly. van is a Adria Altea 542 Uk with a MTPLM of 1300 Kgs and we run this at 1280 Kgs (weight bridged)

2x bikes over axle inside along with other heavier stuff similar placed.

rgds
Chris W


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27/2/2016 at 9:17am
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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 22/2/2016
Quote: Originally posted by checkley1973 on 22/2/2016The nose weight point is not strictly true opensauce, the max nose weight for any van with an Alko stabiliser is 100KG, irrespective of what your car max weight is.


What I said, read my post again...Up to max weight caravan/car.





I've read it a few times and I still think it reads you saying it's OK to go over the max caravan weight if your car allows.



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