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Subject Topic: ATC light not working.
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PersonSi-the-gas
10/8/2017 at 9:05pm
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9 is battery positive and is permanently live, 13 is earth. You might be like my parents and have a 13pin plug and not actually have caravan power. You should have a switch box inside the boot at the end of the cable that goes to the plug. If you don't have the little box (ours is about 2.5cm square) then you don't have the correct wiring to power your caravan.
If your competent it's not too hard to fit a split charge unit but you need to be certain of your capabilities. It's probably best to take your car to a local tow at fitter and get them to test it and do the alterations necessary.


PersonSi-the-gas
10/8/2017 at 9:06pm
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Replaced the LED and all is well with my ATC.


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Personjsparkes201148
10/8/2017 at 10:34pm
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Thanks Si, i will do that.
John


Personbirdman101
11/8/2017 at 7:20am
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Quote: Originally posted by jsparkes201148 on 10/8/2017
Birdman, put my meter on pins 9 and 13 ....nothing, so no permanent live.
I have been told it could be a fuse in the relay, or a faulty relay.
Where might the relay be, and what does it look like?
Thanks
Jihn

Normally the fuse for the permanent live feed is located near the battery. You should see if it has been wired as it should be direct to the battery terminal and then through the fuse.
There should be no relay for the permanent live but should be one for the feed for the fridge which operates only when the engine is running.


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11/8/2017 at 9:02pm
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Update.
Took car to have the electrics checked, lights, indicators work.
No power to ATC, caravan fridge or charging van battery whilst towing.
Spoke to two local Towbar fitters and Kia, and they will not add the missing 'splitter' to the existing wiring.
All, told me that just about the whole rear interior of the car has to be removed to get at the wiring, including one it the seats.
So, I am having the whole lot replaced, with an Aftermarket wiring set for £120. The only quick solution I could find, going away next week and having ATC engaged is required by my C Club insurance.


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PersonSi-the-gas
12/8/2017 at 7:44am
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That sounds about right to me. The rear panels do have to come out and it seems to be more and more of the car has to be taken apart as cars get newer. At least you now have a solution for a bit of info their only charging about £65 ish on labour as the split charge relay, cables fuses etc all add up. Sounds like a good price to me. It's annoying that you buy a car that you think is equipped and it turns out not to be. Same as our.


Personbirdman101
12/8/2017 at 7:59am
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The rear panel has to come off plus the rear seat to remove the panel. The trim along the inside of the sill all along the side to the front removed and then side kick panel to run wires through to engine compartment to the battery.


Personjsparkes201148
12/8/2017 at 9:54am
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This is clearly a job that I would not consider doing myself, when i called at Towbar Express they were working on a BMW, at first glance the car appeared to have been in a rear end collision. Bumper, wheel arches, boot floor, interior panels all removed.
On a job like that, I would have a few bits left over when I put it back together i think!


Personbirdman101
12/8/2017 at 2:16pm
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I have been wiring my own tow bars for 45 years,in fact before the CE regulations on tow bars was introduced i used to make my own tow bars in the workshop. But as the years have gone on each new car needs more stripping out to do the wiring.



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