Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  Caravans and Caravanning
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Pink fluid
Page:  1  2  3 Post Reply Post New Topic
01/4/2018 at 7:02am
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View blueexpo97's Profile View Profile   Reply to blueexpo97 Reply   Quote blueexpo97 Quote  
Joined: 07/2/2009

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   9851

Site Reviews Total: 24
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 1  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 2
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

This does not cause black stuff, plus you only need to carry the one bottle.

-------------
XVI yes?

As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.


01/4/2018 at 11:28am
 Location: Nottingham
 Outfit:  Swift Freestyle S2
View robin52's Profile View Profile   Reply to robin52 Reply   Quote robin52 Quote  
Joined: 10/9/2005

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1632

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 30/3/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Pixie_Hez on 30/3/2018
I have found that elsan double pink does not leave black bits unlike a number of other brands I have tried.



I totally agree as I changed to Elsan Pink from the Thetford brand after someone elses advice on a rally field a few years ago so we are not the only ones to find this. There probably are many other folk too that know this that are not members of this forum.

Never have black bits with Elsan. I did with thetford.






-------------
Regards Robin


Discounted Insurance Quotes for UKCampsite.co.uk visitors! Up to 12.5% off!
UKCampsite.co.uk users are rewarded with up to 12.5% off Caravan Guard touring caravan insurance, folding camper and trailer tent insurance, and 5% off motorhome and campervan insurance. Static caravan insurance is also available. Get an online quote now

01/4/2018 at 12:42pm
 Location: Lincolnshire
 Outfit: Pennine Pathfinder FC.
View Junior pullman's Profile View Profile   Reply to Junior pullman Reply   Quote Junior pullman Quote  
Joined: 15/7/2017

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   315
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 9
Site Reviews 2024: 2  
Site Reviews 2023: 2  
Site Reviews 2022: 1  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 2  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 18
Site Nights 2023: 3
Site Nights 2022: 5
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 28
Site Nights 2018: 14

In all the years we have used Pink (& blue) for our camper loos, we have never had any black bits? Just using water would lead to ‘a not so fresh smelling loo’ I would say.


01/4/2018 at 1:04pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Bob61's Profile View Profile   Reply to Bob61 Reply   Quote Bob61 Quote  
Joined: 23/8/2009

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   10276
Tent Reviews:   4

Site Reviews Total: 28
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 2  
Site Reviews 2018: 2  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 4
Site Nights 2018: 3

When I had a caravan and used a porta loo I used Fenwicks Top and Tail. It was the same fluid top and bottom and the fluid in the top helped to lubricate the pump and clean the bowl. It also tops up the fluid in the bottom bowl which will lose it's strength as you 'water' it down.

I never had any black bits but I am wondering if the black bits could be a black rubber washer starting to perish...just a thought.


01/4/2018 at 1:39pm
 Location: Nottingham
 Outfit:  Swift Freestyle S2
View robin52's Profile View Profile   Reply to robin52 Reply   Quote robin52 Quote  
Joined: 10/9/2005

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1632

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

I tried that top and tail and swiftly went back to Elsan. Hated the smell and threw it away.

-------------
Regards Robin


Advertisement



01/4/2018 at 1:46pm
 Location: Lichfield
 Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
View tango55's Profile View Profile   Reply to tango55 Reply   Quote tango55 Quote  
Joined: 15/5/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   9587

Site Reviews Total: 23
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 3  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 4  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 11
Site Nights 2021: 3
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 24
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 01/4/2018
When I had a caravan and used a porta loo I used Fenwicks Top and Tail. It was the same fluid top and bottom and the fluid in the top helped to lubricate the pump and clean the bowl. It also tops up the fluid in the bottom bowl which will lose it's strength as you 'water' it down.

I never had any black bits but I am wondering if the black bits could be a black rubber washer starting to perish...just a thought.



The black bits are remaining particles of fluid which turns to bacteria after the flush tank has been standing empty for long periods such as draining down for winter which makes me believe that it's a chemical that is present in some brands and not others. However, I think that the cold temperatures contribute to the growth of bacteria because strangely enough, people who keep their caravans in a locked building or barn don't seem to suffer with the black bits whatever brand of Pink fluid they use. Interesting to find out though if those who do not suffer with black bits from the toilet flush tank actually do keep their unit in a building over the winter period.







02/4/2018 at 4:22pm
 Location: Durham
 Outfit: Bailey pageant burgundy
View maughanjen's Profile View Profile   Reply to maughanjen Reply   Quote maughanjen Quote  
Joined: 27/2/2010

Silver Member
Silver Member

Forum Posts:   189
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 12
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 2  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 2

Ours is outside, we use Ropers own make, blue and pink. Haven't seen any black bits. I hate the smell of the pink stuff and tend to really dilute it.I was interested using bio washing tablets instead of the blue. There's been lots of chat on here about them, but I don't mind the smell of the blue it's just the pink.

-------------




02/4/2018 at 5:32pm
 Location: Yorkshire
 Outfit: Car & Caravan
View Paul_B's Profile View Profile   Reply to Paul_B Reply   Quote Paul_B Quote  
Joined: 24/9/2004

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   830

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by robin52 on 01/4/2018
I tried that top and tail and swiftly went back to Elsan. Hated the smell and threw it away.



After trying other brands I went back to Elson and I don't think there's anything better, there cheaper but not better and there's no black bits with their pink.

I left the top n tail I bought at the elson point (on purpose)and those who use bio capsules or the sog system can't have any sense of smell


02/4/2018 at 5:37pm
 Location: Wigan
 Outfit: VWSharan. Sport 442.
View jim oldham's Profile View Profile   Reply to jim oldham Reply   Quote jim oldham Quote  
Joined: 03/10/2004

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   1432

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

We use this

https://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/lidl-price-comparison/Laundry/Doussy_Fabric_Conditioner_Morning_Fresh_2L.html?TrackingCode=AQEBAAI.nUhIB7DWkk6CtZa9QSdr-Q

in the top tank. Don't use anything in the bottom tank, but empty the cassette every day.



03/4/2018 at 11:01am
 Location: Nottingham
 Outfit:  Swift Freestyle S2
View robin52's Profile View Profile   Reply to robin52 Reply   Quote robin52 Quote  
Joined: 10/9/2005

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1632

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by Paul_B on 02/4/2018
Quote: Originally posted by robin52 on 01/4/2018
I tried that top and tail and swiftly went back to Elsan. Hated the smell and threw it away.



After trying other brands I went back to Elson and I don't think there's anything better, there cheaper but not better and there's no black bits with their pink.

I left the top n tail I bought at the elson point (on purpose)and those who use bio capsules or the sog system can't have any sense of smell



👍👍👍



-------------
Regards Robin


Advertisement



03/4/2018 at 1:02pm
 Location: UK and Europe
 Outfit: None Entered
View dillydom's Profile View Profile   Reply to dillydom Reply   Quote dillydom Quote  
Joined: 08/4/2016

Silver Member
Silver Member

Forum Posts:   166

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

We use Lidl Formil Washing Liquid, no smells, no calcium build up and cheap.

-------------
Be kind, be happy.


29/7/2018 at 5:42pm
 Location: Glasgow
 Outfit: Elddis Avante 454
View John4703's Profile View Profile   Reply to John4703 Reply   Quote John4703 Quote  
Joined: 08/2/2009

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   694
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 21
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 7  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 1  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 37
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 7
Site Nights 2019: 7
Site Nights 2018: 0

I've been trying a mix of laundry liquid and detol. No black bits at all and a nice smell.
I put a small amount of laundry liquid and a smaller amount of detol into a 5 litre container, fill it with water and use that to top up the flush tank.

-------------
We camped for years. In 2019 we bought an Elddis Avante 454. We like it as it is short (6.9m) and fits in our driveway and has a fixed bed.
We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


30/7/2018 at 6:38pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Swift Challenger Sport 524 VW Carave
View The 2 Tops's Profile View Profile   Reply to The 2 Tops Reply   Quote The 2 Tops Quote  
Joined: 01/8/2006

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4789

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

We use Thetford Pink in the top tank. Before winter, we thoroughly flush out the top tank with clean water, yet the following year we start getting the black bits. I have concluded that this is water residue that has produced bacteria in the tank during the standing period.
I have considered flushing the tank with a weak solution of Jeyes Fluid, on the basis that any residue will prevent bacteria because of its Jeyes Fluid content.
Bertie.

-------------
The 2 Tops


30/7/2018 at 7:10pm
 Location: Glasgow
 Outfit: Elddis Avante 454
View John4703's Profile View Profile   Reply to John4703 Reply   Quote John4703 Quote  
Joined: 08/2/2009

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   694
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 21
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 7  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 1  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 37
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 7
Site Nights 2019: 7
Site Nights 2018: 0

I put the Detol in because I thought a small amount would make a pleasant smell in the room. I was pleasantly surprised that it also seems to have eliminated the black bits. I know that Detol is good for many things and can remember a painter and decorator using it to get rid of the black mould on walls when I worked for a local council housing department in 1966. I hope it does the same in my toilet.
I don't drain the top tank in the winter as we go away every month for at least a week and I've fitted a small convector heater with a thermostat in the shower room, I put the thermostat onto frost setting so it keeps the place just above freezing and costs very little to run.

-------------
We camped for years. In 2019 we bought an Elddis Avante 454. We like it as it is short (6.9m) and fits in our driveway and has a fixed bed.
We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


31/7/2018 at 12:54pm
 Location: County Durham
 Outfit: Explore 304
View shaggy2000's Profile View Profile   Reply to shaggy2000 Reply   Quote shaggy2000 Quote  
Joined: 27/3/2012

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   514
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by The 2 Tops on 30/7/2018
We use Thetford Pink in the top tank. Before winter, we thoroughly flush out the top tank with clean water, yet the following year we start getting the black bits. I have concluded that this is water residue that has produced bacteria in the tank during the standing period.
I have considered flushing the tank with a weak solution of Jeyes Fluid, on the basis that any residue will prevent bacteria because of its Jeyes Fluid content.
Bertie.



Personally I think that's the only thing the black bits can be. I cant imagine that the fluid that people add to the flush tank is somehow congealing and turning black.

Bacteria forming in whatever water is left in the tank at the end of the season is far more likely.

Like you say, it may be an idea to flush the tank through with some strong antibacterial solution and then allow it to drain thoroughly.

Just my thought anyway.


31/7/2018 at 1:16pm
 Location: West Midlands
 Outfit: Coachman Amara 570 6 + Shogun SG4
View Baileyjake's Profile View Profile   Reply to Baileyjake Reply   Quote Baileyjake Quote  
Joined: 06/1/2015

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   846

Site Reviews Total: 11
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 1  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 2  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 4
Site Nights 2019: 2
Site Nights 2018: 2


i have never had a problem with 'black bits' but i have only used Elsan 'Double pink' and 'Double blue' and fathfully follow their instructions.

i am impressed with how the whole system works and disolves my wife and kids poops without them getting stuck in the neck of the toilet cassette.

i dont understand how people spend over 10k on a caravan then try to save a few £ using other products not intended for chemical toilets.

i was at a campsite in france last summer and an old Irish chap was proudly showing me his new camper van conversion. he actually asked me to take a look at his chemical toilet because he thought the flush wasnt strong enough.

it looked a bit weak compared to the thetford in my caravan but he was using water in the flush tank and nothing in the cassette......it absolutely reaked!


brand new campervan smelling like a sewer...nice.

i told him he needed some chemicals and he said he was going to get some.

-------------
First van bailey ranger 550/6
Now the proud owner of a coachman amara



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

  Prev      Next

Jump To Page:  1  2  3

Quick Links - All Forums - Caravans and Caravanning - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...














7728 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement


Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar


Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder