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14/9/2018 at 10:14am
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Engine overheating light illuminated combined with a cool engine points to a faulty temperature sensor


14/9/2018 at 10:46am
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If car was supplied by large franchised dealer who is going to fix car under warranty without quibble then let them get on with it. What they need to do is explain exactly what was wrong & what parts have been replaced then that should set your mind at rest.

What you don’t need is some inconclusive result ie “er um we reset it & see how it goes” etc so suggest you put your foot down & insist they get to bottom of problem.


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14/9/2018 at 12:42pm
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Slightly off topic I appreciate but is it progress to fit filters etc and then expect the owner of a car to hammer it in low gear simply to ensure the new technology functions properly.
One step forward................


14/9/2018 at 6:18pm
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After our Vauxhall experience (wife had them as company cars) would not have another, our dealership was pretty mediocre when it came to fixing things!
Hyundai/Kia experience better!

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15/9/2018 at 6:13pm
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Sorry to hear this, must have been pretty scary! Fingers crossed they sort the car out. But I can't help wondering, how did you get the 'van home?

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15/9/2018 at 6:57pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Bramidan on 14/9/2018
Slightly off topic I appreciate but is it progress to fit filters etc and then expect the owner of a car to hammer it in low gear simply to ensure the new technology functions properly.
One step forward................


For the purposes of balance it is worth pointing out that a properly functioning diesel car with dpf has only ever needed a few miles at 50mph on an open road to regen the dpf every 300miles or so which would be part of most people’s normal driving.

The “thrashing” excuse is used by dodgy dealers to get out of fixing faulty cars they have sold.


19/9/2018 at 7:35am
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unfortunatly no fault of the car, just the way the system is run as has already been said towing at 50/60 in top gear revs will be 1500/2000 max
You could have drove france and back & had just the same problem it is driver / dealer (salesman) error!
2500 /3000revs for a few miles and it will clean out
Just because there is no light on the dash there are other things to look out for.
Fans will be running instant fuel comsumption will increase (which is shown on the dash) tickover will increase from around 800 RPM to just under 1000 RPM
This coming from a ex mechanic who now is a salesman.


19/9/2018 at 10:25am
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If you are seriously suggesting that towing a caravan down a motorway will cause a car to break down then why are not the motorways littered with broken down cars with caravans behind?

As said. Only a salesman would say that. It’s cheaper than fixing a car under warranty...


19/9/2018 at 3:35pm
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Car was put on low loader and van was towed at the back... Luckily my sister in law was on hand to help us get the van back to storage.

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19/9/2018 at 3:38pm
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Unfortunately that is exactly what has happened. " Oh the DPF filter has blocked up, can't say why it happened but we have done a forced Regen and it is working now". But what assurance do I have that this won't happen again and have you done anything to fix the problem as to why it happened in the first place. "No sorry can't really say but it should be ok now' if it happens again bring it back". Complete joke!!!

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20/9/2018 at 10:13am
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Once you are into forced regens you can say the dpf has had it. The car was faulty when you bought it. To try to pretend towing a caravan on a long motorway trip will block dpf on an otherwise ok car is laughable. You need faulty parts to be replaced under warranty or get a refund & return the car.

If you have had car for longer than a month garage cannot be forced to refund without court action & if they dig their heels in you are in for a fight. You need a serious conversation with them. Maybe they will swap the car for something of similar value? If they insist your car is ok then how can they refuse?


20/9/2018 at 10:35am
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Quote: Originally posted by Buzzy-Beans on 11/9/2018
That is quite a common problem with modern very high geared turbo diesel engines, was the OP's car one of these?

The only thing to do is to change down out of 6th quite regularly and give it a blast of 3rd gear instead of chugging along at not much more or less than 2,000 rpm in 6th.



That's okay if your vehicle has a manual gearbox but an impossible task with an automatic.
People go banging on about how much better automatic gearboxes are but it seems they can also have a lot of disadvantages as well after reading the above posts regarding the DPF.



20/9/2018 at 12:01pm
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They have offered me a PX value £1000 less than what I paid for it and said they have fixed the issue. Very angry. Had the car 2 months so still 10 month warranty on it.

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20/9/2018 at 1:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 20/9/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Buzzy-Beans on 11/9/2018
That is quite a common problem with modern very high geared turbo diesel engines, was the OP's car one of these?

The only thing to do is to change down out of 6th quite regularly and give it a blast of 3rd gear instead of chugging along at not much more or less than 2,000 rpm in 6th.



That's okay if your vehicle has a manual gearbox but an impossible task with an automatic.
People go banging on about how much better automatic gearboxes are but it seems they can also have a lot of disadvantages as well after reading the above posts regarding the DPF.





I know very (VERY!) little about cars, but I can change down gears on my 2018 auto VW Sharan using either the selector lever or the paddles on the steering wheel.

I could do the same with the selector lever on my previous 2010 auto Kia Sedona (no paddles though).

Aren't all "modern" auto's the same?


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20/9/2018 at 9:17pm
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You are correct Mucker you just select the sport / manual mode people need to read handbooks it is not the vehicle speed that is important but the engine speed ie OVER 2000 RPM FOR A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME
If you drive in most cars at 60mph your are not much over tickover 1200/1600rpm
Marko i fell your pain as you have only just had it.
It may have been more down to the other owner it won't regen if the fuel is low (most people dont know that ) your stop/ start will not work fans running after you turn engine off these are all signs that the car was trying a regen.
I hope it will now be fine and you get to enjoy the car no one wants to have the hassel you have had but just trying to explain how these things work.




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21/9/2018 at 7:44pm
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This fans running etc is something I get. Am I right that this is where the regen has started but didn't finish before the end of my journey.

Is it OK to leave it fans running?

Should I go out for another drive and if so how long is needed?



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