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11/6/2019 at 7:37pm
Location: East Herts
Outfit: 1992 Elddis Wisp 450CT + X Trail
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Yes you are right of course gedsjeep, anyone can be scammed. I am not saying that I can't be caught, as I'm sure I could be, but all I am saying is that I am suspicious of everything and everyone when money is changing hands. Some people it would seem though take far more risks than I would ever dream of.
Buying something sight unseen? If it costs £10 maybe, if it costs £100+, probably not. When it comes to something costing £1,000+, most definitely not!
I'm a great believer in the saying that if something looks/sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
If you are selling something always get a receipt and have a witness. A couple of photos of the transaction isn't difficult to arrange either. I would also never deal through a third party, it just isn't worth the risk.
Nobody is beyond being scammed, but you can reduce the risk by taking a few precautions. If it doesn't "feel right", back away.
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11/6/2019 at 8:17pm
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you are right to be suspicious colin, its so easy.
and the more honest the person, the easier they are to scam because they cant (or wont) believe that someone else would stoop so low. but they would. greedy people are easy to scam too, because they are so desperate to believe that the deal they think they have found is genuine.
20 iphones for £500 the lot. yeah, sure its real.
and deep down they want to believe.
not to pick on you, but your example above.
i`m buying your phone. i know i`m going to scam you. i know i can be traced through ebay.
i meet you in leeds, you hand over the phone and i sign the receipt and your mate takes a couple of (maybe covert) pics of of me doing the deal and chatting with you.
then paypal withdraws the money because i say i havent had the phone.
AHA! says colin, i have a signed receipt and a photo and a witness and everything.
only its not my signature, and the bloke you took pics of is my mate hamed and i look nothing like him....
and i watched the whole thing from a bench 20 yards away...
its never ending mate.
i have been scammed once online.
it was by a company that "almost" pretended to be the DVLA. i needed something doing with my license that should have cost £17. photo or something. this company had a website that looked like the DVLA, and came up first on a google search. the scam was that in very small print at the bottom they admitted that they were acting as a self appointed agency and charged you £100 for the service of them applying to the DVLA on your behalf.
the missis checked the bank and we realised what had happened. i tried everything, rang them, threatened them, tried recovering it through the bank and had a horrific time. all the advice sites were stuck as this company was flying "just" inside the law and nothing could be done.
till i realised that they were "selling" a service and hit them with the distance selling regulations and demanded the full amount back.
a cheque arrived in 2 days for the full amount.
i beat myself up over that one, because as a suspicious scouser, i didnt think it could happen to me.
wont bloody happen again though.
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12/6/2019 at 3:29pm
Location: East Herts
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That was originally my quote gedsjeep, and I'm sure the scammers are onto it. Having a witness to the transaction, and a receipt, is probably better than nothing though even if not by much. You would at least have some proof that a transaction did take place, which may be enough if it came to court.
My main point still stands though, it is better not to leave things to trust and to take some precautions. You can't eliminate the risks, but you can minimise them, and the scammers would rather deal with someone who is gullible than someone who isn't. I see it as rather like locking your house when you leave it, instead of leaving the door wide open. You can't stop a burglar breaking in, but you don't have to make it easy for them. If next-door looks easier they'll probably go there.
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