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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 19/9/2020

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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 19/9/2020

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so you dont take any things like an aquaroll, and wastermaster, toilet fluids, blocks of wood for levelling a tool kit, tv, pots and pans plates cups glasses, towels, step, the list goes on but soon could put you over the limit, ok your car can pull 1450, but whats the max weight for your caravan?

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All of those except a TV, but doesn't everyone? We never take a TV, as that's not what we go on holiday for. If anything we like to get away from it. A good book does for us if the weather's bad, and they are often available on site. All I can say is that if I'm over the limit for our caravan, an awful lot of those I see on sites must be two or three times over their weight limits. I'm certain that I am well within the limit for our caravan, and if I had any suspicions that we weren't, there is loads of spare capacity in the back of the car. The back of an X Trail is huge, especially with only two people in it. Sadly there will be even more next time we go away as we no longer need our little dog's cage in there.

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Quote: Originally posted by birder99 on 19/9/2020

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I for one don't want any points on my licence due to unsafe loading.

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Quote: Originally posted by Odds on 20/9/2020

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Quote: Originally posted by birder99 on 19/9/2020

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I for one don't want any points on my licence due to unsafe loading.

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As far as I'm aware it's not an endorsable offence, just a Fixed Penalty.
You'd obviously have to adjust the weights to make your vehicle legal before being allowed to continue your way.


Post last edited on 20/09/2020 03:14:20

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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 19/9/2020

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Colin you do know that for your caravan the max weight is 954 kgs? not 1000kgs ok i know your car can handle a bigger caravan but you must not go over 954kgs to remain legal, if you are then ok yes for you, you can put that in the car, but i do suggest you go and put your caravan on weighbridge even just the once to find out

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Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 20/9/2020

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I have a caravan list - used for keeping an eye on the weight as well as using as a check list. Everything that goes in gets weighed. Things that get taken for each trip - clothes etc go in the car. We uplifted our weight so we have 219kg to play with. Currently have about 40kg spare. Its not difficult to keep a track - I keep a set of those suitcase scale things in the caravan so I can weigh things.

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Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 21/9/2020

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That's play devils advocate again.

(1) Sticker states 1640kg (Or there abouts)
(2) Plate in gas locker reads 1800kg (100% Sure)
(3) Axle plate under van on the axles states GVW 1000kg each axle. X 2 = 2000kg (100% Sure)

So which one shall of the 3, which are all on the caravan do we argue with DVSA police about.
Because all 3 could be used and all be legal?
So really the manufacturer is not that helpful in this case.

By the way i am rated at 1800kg on my bailey sticker as have the upgrade, which i do not see why i needed to pay for, when the plate was already on there in the gas locker lol, another rip off.

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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 20/9/2020

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As for weigh bridges they are allowed a tolerance of between 2-5% so on a caravan with a MTPLM of 1500kg it could should that you are 75kg over or under!

Post last edited on 20/09/2020 09:04:28

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Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 21/9/2020

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That's play devils advocate again.

(1) Sticker states 1640kg (Or there abouts)
(2) Plate in gas locker reads 1800kg (100% Sure)
(3) Axle plate under van on the axles states GVW 1000kg each axle. X 2 = 2000kg (100% Sure)

So which one shall of the 3, which are all on the caravan do we argue with DVSA police about.
Because all 3 could be used and all be legal?
So really the manufacturer is not that helpful in this case.

By the way i am rated at 1800kg on my bailey sticker as have the upgrade, which i do not see why i needed to pay for, when the plate was already on there in the gas locker lol, another rip off.

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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 21/9/2020

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Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 20/9/2020

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I have a caravan list - used for keeping an eye on the weight as well as using as a check list. Everything that goes in gets weighed. Things that get taken for each trip - clothes etc go in the car. We uplifted our weight so we have 219kg to play with. Currently have about 40kg spare. Its not difficult to keep a track - I keep a set of those suitcase scale things in the caravan so I can weigh things.

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It is when you add on stuff like motor movers etc that you start losing payload and in a lot of circumstances an motor mover is essential. Ours weighs 60kg so big chuck off the payload.

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Quote: Originally posted by katycymru on 22/9/2020

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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 20/9/2020

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As for weigh bridges they are allowed a tolerance of between 2-5% so on a caravan with a MTPLM of 1500kg it could should that you are 75kg over or under!

Post last edited on 20/09/2020 09:04:28

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I agree with the tolerance level, but as someone pointed out, the DVSA would be using the same types of scales with the same tolerance levels and calibration, so you're not going to win that argument, I'm afraid. I would find it hard to swallow that the margin of error is up to 50% of your payload (mine is 155kg).

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