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24/7/2023 at 2:25pm
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Never been aware of rats near pitches on any of the camp sites I've used (and been camping for well over 50 years now!), and with caravan/awning some of those have been on farm CL's which almost certainly have rats around nearby barns etc. I've pitched in friends fields near their stables and not had an issue, never known anyone with horses who didn't have rats around the stables!
I've used a camping fridge in the awning and NEVER seen (smelt!) any sign of rodents going near it. I've had dining table and chairs set up in awning, and inevitably food scraps have been left overnight without issues.
I've camped it tents plenty too, yes you hear all sorts of creatures scuttling around outside, but typically harmless things like voles, rabbits and hedgehogs (noisy little blighters they are!), and at dawn birds looking for 'breakfast' bugs. I've stored all sorts of food stuffs in fabric camping larders and Tupperware boxes, in unsealed porch section of tent and the worst I've ever seen was a few bugs coming in!
Think you are on a lost cause trying to 'seal' an awning, just not compatible with the way awnings are made/used (doors/sides usually zip to the ground to enable opening!), and rats climb, rats chew, if they want to get in they will! A tent is a poor comparison, it's got fully sewn in sides, an awning will always have the gap against the caravan wall and under the van!
As mentioned, many sites ban non-breathable groundsheets on awnings, or ask they are lifted for several hours daily to protect their grass.
Putting things like washing up liquid on what are intended to be waterproof fabrics will DESTROY their waterproof properties!!!!!! Dread to think of what the contents (probably vinegar - an acid!) of chilli sauce would do to awning fabric!!!!!
I'm all too familiar with rats at home, neighbours seem to encourage them with all sorts of practices they shouldn't, so well aware of signs and smells of them, and do get them in garden and sheds, just NEVER seen them camping!
Can only suggest using rat traps to kill the blighters, but INSIDE the awning, otherwise serious risk of harming innocent wildlife if accessible outside the awning.
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All these people saying they have never seen a rat on a campsite!!!! Well you won’t during the day!!! They come out at night looking for food. Every single time we’ve gone camping rats have been in our awning. The smell is unbearable, and they are rats as we’ve seen them. I usually sleep in the bedroom compartment in the awning and I hardly sleep cause I can hear them scuttling around.,we can’t leave anything on the ground. Everything has to be lifted up, and everytime we’ve been away we have to disinfect the breathable ground sheet and the plastic mud skirt of the awning. The worst campsite we have ever been to for rats is a park dean campsite called skipsea sands. They are running around the bins. Open the bins there were about 6 sat on top of the rubbish, they had chewed thro the bin lid!!! We had 4 come in our awning!!! They were running around the streets at night and going under caravans. Where the bins were, in certain locations around the site, you would see around 20 on top in the bins on the ground. Yes bait boxes were present but they were only checked once a month, which isn’t enough when there is an infestation. During the day, you don’t see any!! And you would never know the site had a problem!! The rats had urinated on everything that was stored on the floor in the awning, at skipsea sands, So everything had to be thrown away. We discovered that they don’t like the scent of hot pepper sauce, mixed with washing up liquid and water and cayenne pepper and squirted on the plastic mud skirt of the awning, inside the awning, if you do it outside the rain washes it off. We laid traps down too, inside our awning, they managed to take the bait but they didn’t get caught. We complained at reception but they couldn’t care less, other people were complaining too. We made a complaint once we got home and we got a refund. It was really bad there.
We are going to get a newer caravan which will be bigger, my hubby snores like a road drill that’s why I sleep in the awning. But until we do I’m making him sleep in the awning. I’ve had enough of rats in my garden coming thro from my next door neighbours as she has 5 bird feeders. I can’t enjoy my garden. She refuses to take them down. !!! I’m getting paranoid about rats they are driving me insane!!!
Everybody has rats in their garden. If you don’t believe you have rats, I challenge you to be in your garden when it’s dark sit quietly and you will see them scurrying around. Or put some poison in a bait box about £10 off Amazon and if you check the bait box after several days you will see the poison has gone indicating rodents are around. Load the bait box with disposable gloves, as rats can smell humans . I challenge anyone who says they have never seen rats !!!
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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 24/7/2023
I used a rat trap outside my back door at home during Covid when the local takeaway was closed (rats came for the bird food), very efficient & instant. I’m surprised sites with rat problems don’t use the lockable enclosed box with poison bait placed in the usual rat runs.
But we never had rats in our tent awning (which had no sewn in groundsheet), but hedgehogs were regular visitors, stealing dog food.
Campsites do use bait boxes, but they aren’t monitored enough, skipsea sands, park dean campsite only check and restock the bait boxes once a month and they have hundreds of rats. And that’s no exaggeration !!!!!
I’ve got rats in my garden, thanks to my thoughtful neighbour who has several bird feeders, and refuses point blank to take them down. I’ve gone thro hundreds of ££££ of poison, traps, bait boxes, gloves and all the rat paraphernalia to try and eradicate them but as long as the bird feeder is there they keep coming. I have to restock the bait box every couple of days and I know I ain’t got hundreds of rats but they do breed quickly, so need to take action until they have been eradicated. A campsite we go to jansons in Elton they check their bait boxes twice a week. Every campsite is different , the big chain campsites are the worst for keeping on top of the problem. Family run campsites take it seriously and do all they can to keep their campsite rat free. This is the second year we’ve had rats in our garden, and I feel I cannot enjoy being in my garden. And that is one of the reasons we are selling up!!!!
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