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29/12/2021 at 8:26pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 29/12/2021
I know just what you mean about pensions CyberCynth. Every year since I retired my pension increase has been more than swallowed up by bigger bills, and this coming year looks like being a record-breaker with both fuel and energy bills going up in leaps and bounds. Way more than my likely pension increase.

Our car is a bit of a gas-guzzler I must admit, but as we now only do a fraction of the mileage we used to do I don't worry about it too much. My one consolation is that when the caravan is on the back the car hardly notices it, and fuel consumption is barely affected. The car could cope with a much heavier caravan than ours as it is an older model which is very light when compared to later ones. A small car pulling at or near its limit will see a much bigger change in fuel consumption, especially if the car is petrol powered. Our financial position wouldn't allow us to change either the car or caravan anyway.




Aaaah, Colin21, I feel your pain! I was watching the BBC News earlier on , when their financial correspondent was telling viewers about how our bills were going to be increasing massively next year.

Back to a happier topic; nice outfit you have there, I like the Elddis caravans. I had a Wisp a couple of years ago, a golden oldie which unfortunately sprang a terminal leak around the front windows. I hadn't had it long so took it back to the dealer as 'unfit for purpose', and fortunately, they gave me a full refund. Anyway, I digress (again). Agreed, the Toyota will struggle pulling anything other than a small camping trailer I think! Especially being a petrol engine. I think, with the financial outlook being so poor I will have to be content to stick with my frame tent for now. It is a very nice one! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

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29/12/2021 at 8:50pm
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Quote: Originally posted by arthurdent on 29/12/2021
This may not be an option for you but have you considered upgrading your car a little ? Our Xplore 304 can easily be towed by a car with 1200 towing capacity, so it doesnt have to be huge.
Failing that, like a lot of others I would also look at folding campers although they can be cold out of season plus you've always one eye on the weather so you're not folding up dripping wet canvas (we had one before the Xplore)
Other alternatives :
A small motorhome that could also be your car eg a Berlingo ?
A teardrop caravan that you can use overnight but add an awning or tent to for longer stays and more comfortable cooking ?

Edit - I see others got in before me with similar suggestions.



Hi Arthurdent, thank you for sharing your ideas.

I haven't had the Toyota for very long and have just had the towbar fitted (despite not having a unit to attach to it yet!) I'm really pleased with the car and would like to give it a try with a small unit to tug along behind me. I think I said in an earlier post that I'd like to try a Gobur Carousel Slimline, although it'll be tricky finding one I can afford! Also, at 750kg it's close to the Yaris's max. tow. The smaller trailer tents like the Raclet Solena would be lighter. I like the look of the Comanche Petite as well, but as imports, they seem rarer than hens teeth in the UK.

Yes, certainly the teardrops are another consideration. I note there's a chap on ebay who is making them and selling them in a basic level at £1800, the cheapest I've seen anywhere. I'm still trying to find anyone who owns a teardrop, who can tell me what they're like in use! One advantage I would have with a pod is that I have a large tailgate awning which I used to use with my VW Sharan (when it was in 'car camper' mode) which may fit on the back end of a teardrop, to make cooking etc more comfortable. But you still have to get out of the pod and back into the awning to access the kitchen area. In the rain? When it's freezing cold??? Errrr, not my idea of fun...

Well anyway, discussing all the possibilities for camping units is a pleasant way of spending the long, dark winter evenings!




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via mobile 29/12/2021 at 9:11pm
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£1800 for a teardrop seems v cheap, theyre normally as expensive as a normal size caravan.


via mobile 29/12/2021 at 9:22pm
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btw I think your Yaris has a towing capacity of 880kg, and a folding camper like the Pennine Pullman has a max gross weight of 900kg, so would be towable if not packed to the max. Something like a Pullman or Conway Cruiser can be very comfortable.

Edit - I used to tow a Pullman with a Ford Fusion, 900kg towing capacity, no issues.

Post last edited on 29/12/2021 21:35:35


29/12/2021 at 9:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by arthurdent on 29/12/2021
£1800 for a teardrop seems v cheap, theyre normally as expensive as a normal size caravan.



I have noticed a huge difference in the price of some of these little teardrops. From the £1800 ones I saw on ebay, to another range called 'Pod-E', which if I remember rightly start at about £4k, right up to some other makes at really silly money, like £15 - £20k. Really? For something you can't stand up in? I don't think so. Still, some may argue that you can't stand up in a car camper/small motorhome either - unless you have a lifting roof. Plus, you have the bother of towing. So for £20k a teardrop would have to be like a palace on wheels before I'd spend that much on it! Let's face it, if you've got that sort of money to spend, wouldn't you rather spend it on a proper caravan?! (I could upgrade the car as well with that much dosh! Ooooh, the stuff of dreams!)

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29/12/2021 at 9:39pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mick S. on 27/12/2021
TBH, id think id sooner have a tent than than a 'tear drop' van. Its a mobile bed, and not much more. And for the weight, you may as well have a camping trailer and a decent tent/gear. Or, get a 'folder' as suggested. (or a bigger car!)



Thanks for your thoughts Mick S. I wasn't ignoring you, somehow I missed your post and have just noticed it whilst reviewing replies.

I've got a frame tent Mick. The issues I have with it are A: tricky if I have to pack it down wet: it has to be taken indoors to dry off when I get home (I don't have a garage where it could be spread out) and B: Temperature variations. For example last October I stayed in my tent during a late, mini heat wave. During the day it was absolutely boiling hot in the tent, but as soon as the sun set the temperature plummeted; I ended up crawling into my sleeping bag fully dressed! I had an oil filled radiator on, which didn't really seem to help keep the temperature in the tent anything like warm enough. I've been advised since to swap it for a cerammic fan heater.

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29/12/2021 at 9:48pm
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Quote: Originally posted by arthurdent on 29/12/2021
btw I think your Yaris has a towing capacity of 880kg, and a folding camper like the Pennine Pullman has a max gross weight of 900kg, so would be towable if not packed to the max. Something like a Pullman or Conway Cruiser can be very comfortable.

Edit - I used to tow a Pullman with a Ford Fusion, 900kg towing capacity, no issues.

Post last edited on 29/12/2021 21:35:35



Yikes! That would be a bit close to the max for my liking....

That might make the 95 horses under the bonnet sweat somewhat!

I note you have an Xplore - nice van! Have said in a reply to Colin21 that I'm a fan of the Elddis group, having had a Wisp, and previously an Avante.


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29/12/2021 at 11:05pm
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i have a rapido folding van 4 mins to set up same to get it down its one hell of a kit wouldnt change it for anything

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30/12/2021 at 8:16am
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Quote: Originally posted by romperstomper on 29/12/2021
i have a rapido folding van 4 mins to set up same to get it down its one hell of a kit wouldnt change it for anything



What do you use as a towcar, if you don't mind me asking, romperstomper?

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01/1/2022 at 5:07pm
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Another vote for the Gobur from me. 5 minutes to set up, under the height of the car, aluminium body, no leaks, no damp and good back-up from the makers.

SWMBO and I are both in our 70's and have no problems moving it, but I am thinking of a lightweight motor mover so she can set it up and leave me in peace to have a beer. (Nowt I do is right!)

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01/1/2022 at 5:14pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Bridgelayer on 01/1/2022
SWMBO and I are both in our 70's and have no problems moving it, but I am thinking of a lightweight motor mover so she can set it up and leave me in peace to have a beer. (Nowt I do is right!)



I have control of the motor mover, and set the caravan up, as my other-half is usually getting a brew on by then. Kettle goes on as soon as I plug in the EHU, we have it down to a fine art.



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02/1/2022 at 8:59am
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Quote: Originally posted by Bridgelayer on 01/1/2022
Another vote for the Gobur from me. 5 minutes to set up, under the height of the car, aluminium body, no leaks, no damp and good back-up from the makers.

SWMBO and I are both in our 70's and have no problems moving it, but I am thinking of a lightweight motor mover so she can set it up and leave me in peace to have a beer. (Nowt I do is right!)



Thanks for your thoughts Bridgelayer, I thinking folding caravan is the way I'm going to go!   Gobur in particular. I am wishing now that I had never sold the one I had a few years ago but, hey ho, easy to be wise after the event.

A new service offered by the Camping and Caravanning Club's Tow Matching Service is that if you ask, it will provide a list of units suitable for your car to tow. I was pleased to see Gobur come up on the list of suitable caravans for the Yaris, but surprised that the other folding makes weren't listed. Too heavy? Too much noseweight? I don't know, but I'll be quite happy to go back to Norfolk for another Gobur. It's a long way from home, but I know I can trust the firm to sell me a decent 'van.





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02/1/2022 at 9:15am
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 01/1/2022
Quote: Originally posted by Bridgelayer on 01/1/2022
SWMBO and I are both in our 70's and have no problems moving it, but I am thinking of a lightweight motor mover so she can set it up and leave me in peace to have a beer. (Nowt I do is right!)



I have control of the motor mover, and set the caravan up, as my other-half is usually getting a brew on by then. Kettle goes on as soon as I plug in the EHU, we have it down to a fine art.

I love the motor movers, the first Gobur I had was fitted with one but the 12/2T that followed the Slimline didn't, but I managed without one perfectly well - I got reversing using the car down to a fine art!

I, too, love the idea of getting a brew on soon after arrival at a site!
Although I live and camp alone the Gobur was very quick and easy for me to set up, but then I never bothered with an awning. There didn't seem any point putting one up just for me and the dog! I've got a 'sun' canopy (haha) which takes 5 minutes to set up and keeps off the worst of the weather when coming and going.

Still vaguely tempted with th ideaa of a trailer tent, but the idea of having to dry out a wet canvas at home, following a wet pack-up, is putting me off, plus the fact that I just don't think I'd be any warmer in a TT than I am when using the frame tent for off-season camping, so I may as well stick with that until I can save up for a Gobur.

Thanks everyone for your interest, and comments.






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02/1/2022 at 6:54pm
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What sort of distances do are you thinking of going and what sort of speeds.

I'm thinking proper caravans will only be a problem with wind resistance etc at higher speeds such as on motorway and liveable with if only short distances.


02/1/2022 at 10:16pm
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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 02/1/2022
What sort of distances do are you thinking of going and what sort of speeds.

I'm thinking proper caravans will only be a problem with wind resistance etc at higher speeds such as on motorway and liveable with if only short distances.



Hi navver,
I don't tend to go long distances these days, largely because of the fuel and other running costs of the car. Speed? Well like everyone else, I have to stick to the speed limits! I feel awkward if I can't keep up with the flow of the traffic.

By 'Proper caravans' I'm assuming you mean full-height ones rather than folders. Pop-tops are slightly lower; I had a Fleurette Tamaris a while back, but kept bumping my head on the lower part of the ceiling! Also, I had a very scary experience on the motorway once, when the front of the pop-top roof suddenly came undone; I suddenly saw it in my mirror, banging up and down. It put me off pop-tops.


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