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16/2/2007 at 1:51pm
 Location: Worcestershire
 Outfit: Buccaneer Cruiser
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I really envy you getting a Hobby.  Knowing what i know now I woudl have purchased a 2.5m wide Hobby with island bed ages ago.  Quality is far higher than any over priced British manufactured caravan!


16/2/2007 at 6:05pm
 Location: Manchester
 Outfit: Disco & Hobby Excellent
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I absolutely agree Ian

We were nosing round a dealers last week.

When asked if we had seen anything we liked. We replied in all honesty; no.

All these vans and you cant find one you like said the salesman.

We explained that we were trying to get hold of a hobby, and a knowing frown appeared on his face, before he tried to point us in the direction of an £18,000 van. We just laughed and walked away.



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16/2/2007 at 9:03pm
 Location:  Suffolk Essex border
 Outfit: Kia Sedona & Hobby 540UK
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Have you looked in caravan trader  some dealers advertise in there .

 i found my Hobby in there it had some broken internal parts but i just ordered new parts from Hobby at Ambergate



16/2/2007 at 9:59pm
 Location: lancashire
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when we was looking to purchase our hobby a couple of months ago i was informed by ambergate that adlington caravans was no longer hobby dealers, yes they sell hobby but have not got the franchise



17/2/2007 at 1:01pm
 Location: Manchester
 Outfit: Disco & Hobby Excellent
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Did you actually get a hobby Anne?

I would be very grateful ifytou could share your experience

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17/2/2007 at 5:54pm
 Location: Somewhere
 Outfit: Hobby 540 Premium
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I was at the Hobby dealer in Ambergate today, they have some 2006 and 2007 models in stock. Not the brightest salesman I have met but the product is there!

Good Luck



17/2/2007 at 6:37pm
 Location: Manchester
 Outfit: Disco & Hobby Excellent
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Cheers Nick

We're not that far from Ambergate so we will check it out.

No harm in exploring all avenues if we're going to part with the hard earned cash

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17/2/2007 at 11:49pm
 Location: lancashire
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yes we did purchase a hobby 650uk  Kev, got the van from a dealer in bridlington, they are connected to the dealer in scotland as well, well pleased with the van, no problems at all we have our van sited in the lake disrict.


18/2/2007 at 5:04pm
 Location: LANCASHIRE
 Outfit: HOBBY
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Hi

Really interesting thread as we are looking at a Hobby, went to a Dealers yesterday and also looked at a Fendt which they said were a sister company to the Hobby.  We really like the look of them because we want an island bed, but I can believe the size of the cookers, the ones we looked at were not only minute but one was located on top of the fridge freezer so was too high up for me, if I had something under the grill I would have had to stand on something to see how it was cooking!  In one of the other vans it was located literally just above floor level.  We have also seen some models without any cooker at all.  Being a newbie to all this (not having owned a caravan before) does it just seem to be the German manufacturers? British vans seem to have full size cookers in a lot of them.  Do you tend to eat out when on site? I am really interested to know.

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20/2/2007 at 8:17pm
 Location: Essex
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Most continental caravans have sparse cooking facilities. From our observations the French/Germans on holiday  eat lots of salads, cold meats, fruit and cheese, and eat out a lot too. The tins of ready prepared cassolet etc also seem to be very popular and these can just be re-heated on one burner.

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20/2/2007 at 10:34pm
 Location: North Lincs
 Outfit: Kia Ceed 2 sw Abbey Spectrum 215
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Hi Val Der Re,try looking at Hymer,we have a Hymer with full english cooker and  washroom.

we bought after being disapointed with the build quality of english vans,

be careful with hobby and Fendt as some of their models are oversize to tow with a private car,but their build quality is very good.



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21/2/2007 at 5:16pm
 Location: Sunny Lancs
 Outfit: Westfalia Club Joker VW T25 1.6TD
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Check out insurance campanies for a Hobby before buying. A friend of mine had probs getting insured, and was advised not to buy one. Something to do with being "the van of choice" with the "traveller" community. Or is it all "urban myth" ?

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21/2/2007 at 8:03pm
 Location: Wakefield West Yorkshire
 Outfit: Cristall 530ew
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Hi,

We have just ordered a Crystall van which is a German make, OH was very impressed with the quality of everything. We have a 2 year old Swift at this time and although we love it, we wanted a fixed single bed layout and as they didn't have one a t GMex, we ended up looking at the Crystall. Can't wait to get it I ammmmm soooo excited!!!.

Just a note re insurance, atfer ordering, I checked about the insurance and whilst Cardguard will insure (at no nore cost than an english van, they did insist that it had to be purchased through a UK Dealer and they would not have considered it had we brought it in from abroad. So please check this out before making your decision. Apparently our "travelling " friends love these so you would hate to "lose" it and not have insurance.



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22/2/2007 at 10:56pm
 Location: Kent
 Outfit: Hobby 495UL
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Hi Folks, I would like to add my pennyworth to the hobby debate. I have been caravanning since 1982. 25 years this year. I have owned a continental van for the last 21 years. My last 2 vans being Hobby.  Yes go ahead and try a Hobby I have not been disapointed. To help I have set out some basic facts below. I decided which van I wanted and then did a google search in German. I found a chap in Bavaria with one to sell contacted him and went over and bought, having the cash in Euros with me. When we had sorted out the legalities, forms etc- no small matter in Germany. I put my own number plate on the van and towed her home to Kent. I had insured her before leaving England.

 

Firstly regarding Tax. I have imported caravans from Germany quite legally. I contacted Customs and asked them the situation. The reply was that as legally a caravan is not a vehicle it is considered to be a trailer and therefore normal property. Ie It can be brought into this country as long as the vat has been paid in the country of origin. Separate rules exist for items brought tax free by diplomats and the military.

 

Secondly. Insurance can be a problem. Because they are highly desired by travelers they tend to go missing more often that their British counterparts. Therefore premiums are higher. Also repair can be more expensive in this country because of availability of parts

 

Thirdly the Law is the law!

 

Maximum sizes for towing

Towing vehicle under 3500kg GVW

Length (excluding the coupling and drawbar)

7.0 metres

Maximum width

2.3 metres

Towing vehicle over 3500kg GVW

Length (excluding the coupling and drawbar)

12 metres if at least 4 wheels

Maximum width

2.55 metres

Length of towing vehicle & trailer combined

18 metres

Maximum overhang of load from rear of trailer

3.05 metres

Further information from: National Trailer and Towing Association (NTTA)
www.ntta.co.uk/law/

Maximum trailer sizes
Type 01: unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less.
Type 02: trailers on overrun brakes - max. 3500kg gross trailer weight.
1982 regulations require that all trailers, including unbraked ones, must be clearly marked with their maximum gross weight in kg. This may be checked at any time by the police at a weighbridge. Since 1 January 1997, all unbraked trailer plates must show the year of manufacture.

Safe weight ratios
For stable and safe towing we would always recommend that you choose the smallest and lightest possible caravan suitable for your intended use. The less the laden weight of the caravan is in relation to the weight of the towing vehicle, the safer and more stable the outfit will be. The Caravan Club, for example, advises that you should aim for a towed load that is no more than 85% of the car's kerb weight for stability and safety. The CC advice is NEVER to tow above 100% of the car's kerbside weight.
N.B. The car manufacturer's specified maximum permissible towload is always the absolute towing limit regardless of any 85% or 100% weight ratio guideline. This is especially important in those cases where the manufacturer's figure is particularly low - in a few cases even below 85%.

Load distribution
Proper load distribution, in general, must be ensured too, with all heavy items in the caravan low down and directly over the axle wherever possible. Correct tyre pressures for car and caravan are absolutely vital.

Noseweight
It is a legal requirement that the noseweight should be 4% of the weight of the trailer or at least 25kg, whichever is the higher.. For safety you should aim for, but not exceed, the lower of the 2 figures specified for caravan and car respectively.

Passengers
It is illegal to carry passengers inside a caravan whilst on the road. It is permitted for pets to travel in the caravan, although this is not recommended safe practice.

Driving Licences
A full (not provisional) driving licence is required to tow a caravan. From 1 January 1997, new category B (generally held as 'normal' car entitlement) vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kg Maximum Authorised Mass allowing a combined weight of up to 4.25 tonnes MAM OR a trailer (for example a tourer) over 750kg MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM. This would mean that many drivers who possess only a category B on their licence would be able to tow a caravan provided it was not heavier than their car, and that car and caravan combined, does not weigh more than 3.5 tonnes.
New drivers of outfits over these limits must take a category B + E test.
Further information from: Driver and Vehicle Licencing Agency (DVLA)
www.dvla.gov.uk

Speed
Towed outfits may travel at up to 50 mph on single carriageway roads and up to 60 mph on dual carriageways and motorways. Towed outfits are not permitted in the outside lane of a three or more lane motorway unless other lanes are closed.

Brakes
A caravan with a maximum design laden weight of more than 750kg must be braked with an intertia (overrun) type braking system up to a maximum permissible laden weight of 3500kg.

Road lights
Caravans must have flashing indicators fitted at the back. A buzzer or other means of alerting the driver must be installed to highlight the failure of any of these indicators.
Caravans must have two rear lights conforming to certain size requirements and bearing the appropriate CE mark. Marker lights must be fitted 'as high as practicable' on the side or at the front and rear of caravans over 2.1m wide.

Carrying gas cylinders
Regulations relating to the use of liquid petroleum gas (LPG) in vehicles on the public highway require the gas to be shut off at the cylinder when no appliance is in use. While the vehicle is in motion, no gas appliance should be in use. Special restrictions apply in certain road tunnels, the Channel Tunnel and on ferries. DO check before setting off.

Parking
Do not park your caravan:
 • where it may cause an obstruction
 • at night on a road without lights
 • in street parking bays as some local laws forbid this
 • at a parking meter, as caravans are not permitted
 • unless securely braked or chocked to prevent movement

And finally ....
 • A caravan stored in its owner's garden may be used as a spare bedroom to accommodate non-paying guests. Friends can bring their own caravan and stay within the garden of a house.
 • Caravans must have a rear number plate, matching that of the towing vehicle, and illuminated at night.
 • TVs used in caravans are covered by the owner's domestic TV licence as long the caravan is occupied by someone resident where the TV licence is registered.
 • Caravans do not have to undergo an MOT test.
 • All safety regulations for car tyres apply to caravans. Retread tyres should not be used. Radial and cross-ply tyres must not be mixed on the same axle.

 

 



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23/2/2007 at 6:02pm
 Location: Wakefield West Yorkshire
 Outfit: Cristall 530ew
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All I can say to that is WOW!!

I have printed off all the above info as it applies to al vans.



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