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15/12/2009 at 11:30am
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Vic,

I think Tescos et al have marketed the perception that they are cheaper.  Do do that historically, and have the discount on fuel, they have scrimped on the product quality that is the defacto standard of Shell, BP et al.

But again, it is like everything Tesco et al do - undercut, and then sneak up the prices when the customer is hooked.  We buy fruit and veg from a local farmer - better quality and cheaper too.



15/12/2009 at 12:07pm
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On the price issue -

I find our local Tesco puts up the price above that of local Shell and BP outlets when it has the 5p vouchers on offer. So if you don't have a voucher cheaper to go elsewhere.



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15/12/2009 at 12:48pm
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My Range rover runs better on shell.....used to always buy my petrol from Tesco's but had loads of problems.....so switched to shell as did my daughter for her little car....which kept jumping when filled at tesco's.... 

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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 14/12/2009

The only explaination I can see for better mpg is that because the fuel cost you more, you drive more economically.

best fuel burns hotter.


 

But not if is the same fuel with additives, it is less fuel than the supermarkets give you for a litre and more additive.

 

For what it's worth, I buy my fuel from Asda or Morrisons as they are 5p a litre less than Tesco. When you are spending £50 a week on diesel, 5p a litre adds up over a year.



15/12/2009 at 6:33pm
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Interesting,...Tesco is actually ESSO fuel, Come down to kingsbury fuel depot and I'll show you all the tesco lorries loading from Esso. 24

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Tesco Fill up at Petroplus here on teesside

Infact Petroplus supplys 17% of the Uks Diesel.



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I have noticed a few of the postings mention that they get better milage with Shell, but the standard Shell diesel not the V power our company have found this also Our fleet consists of a number of 2.5 litre diesel vans and if we run them on Shell consumption is in the region oof 33 to 34 to the gallon, but if we run them on supermarket fuel we get around 29 to 30mpg.

We have also tried the V power and apart from costing a lot more, no difference 7p a litre near us,still it was 10p a litre in tha past. Stick with the Standard Shell.

Didn't Tesco have the trouble with adding to much silicon to stop it foaming?

 



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run my last 3 cars on morrisons fuel, usually 1p cheaper, plus I get 1p a litre back on the miles card which gives me vouchers,

never had any problem, generally I only fill up elsewhere on my full weeks holiday, plenty in a tank for there and back


16/12/2009 at 6:28am
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Quote: Originally posted by ad210358 on 15/12/2009

Didn't Tesco have the trouble with adding to much silicon to stop it foaming?

 


 

I beleive Morrisons had a problem with some of their newer pumps filters being clogged by the anti foaming agent so stopped puttign it in. This led to other problems as you can imagine.



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Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 14/12/2009
If the driver is putting additives into the tanker, doesn't that mean you get less fuel for your money and more additive. Therefore, If you get less fuel for your litre, you cannot possibly be getting more miles from the smaller litre. The only explaination I can see for better mpg is that because the fuel cost you more, you drive more economically.


The amount of additive is only a tiny percentage, if useing branded fuels improves fuel consumption it will be because the additive has improved the quailty of the fuel.

Supermarket fuel meets the UK standard of diesel/petrol, if it didn't it would not be permitted for it to be sold as diesel/petrol. Branded fuel has additives. Supermarkets fuels don't, how this is achieved when all tankers are loading at the same depot is explained in a earlier post.

The problem Tesco had with their petrol sometime ago was caused by an anti-frothing agent used in diesel being accidently added to their petrol.


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16/12/2009 at 9:35am
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Quote: Originally posted by TonyC52 on 15/12/2009

On the price issue -

I find our local Tesco puts up the price above that of local Shell and BP outlets when it has the 5p vouchers on offer. So if you don't have a voucher cheaper to go elsewhere.



Same here. I think it's most unfair as I could never spend the £50 odd on shopping to get the voucher... which would only bring the price of their fuel back down to the cost it was before they did the vouchers. I think Morrisons and Sansburys, maybe even Asda have all done this thing and I noticed in each case that the cost of fuel went up, so you're buying all that shopping in store just to get vouchers to buy your petrol at the regular price!

And they make it sound like you're getting a real good bargain on fuel, that's marketing for you!


16/12/2009 at 11:39am
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Yes Jax, Tesco do it on food and everything else. time we went back to buying from local shops and farms. However, locals and farmers could help themselves if they got a grip on charging reasonable prices. Some of them have jumped on the organic bandwagon and inflated prices, just for buying local - with the notable exception of a fantastic farm shop near Kincardine on the way to Rosyth which is superb.


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Rab Is spot on I've seen Tesco tankers loading at Esso at the Kingsbury Depot..

I equate it to getting electricity down your cable..same stuff as different utility company...does the same job..different price

 

Steve



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erm. Well the performance is night and day in terms of difference Steve. And that is corroborated by lots of folks here.



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Quote: Originally posted by steve2020 on 16/12/2009

Rab Is spot on I've seen Tesco tankers loading at Esso at the Kingsbury Depot



If you read the whole thread(yes I know its boring)you will discover why Esso petrol/diesel(as well as BP & other leading fuel brands)manages to be different from supermarket petrol despite being loaded from the same storage tank in the same fuel depot.


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how come mine runs not so good on tesco but spot on with asda diesel?? still a supermarket brand, only difference is asda was £1.06 , tesco £1.10



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