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Subject Topic: Winter storage - handbrake on or off?
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09/10/2010 at 12:29pm
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Manufacturers often put 'safety points' in their literature purely to cover their backsides should their product not conform to the regulations at any time causing you to have an accident.

It is the same with wheel nuts - when was the last time you torqued your wheel nuts...






on your car?

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09/10/2010 at 12:40pm
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Are you referring to the 10 inch delay mentioned by Alco before the handbrake power store comes into play ? I think this is mechanical due to the wheel rotation - not backside covering...


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Not sure where you have sourced your information but Al-Ko state in their Caravan Chassis Book the following:
Quote:

Handbrake Lever With Spring
Cylinder (Fig. 42):
Apply handbrake fully ensuring that
handbrake is in the vertical position.
This will ensure that the spring cylinder
energy store is fully loaded and will
automatically re-apply the wheel brakes
if the trailer starts to roll backwards.
Caution:
If the handbrake is not fully applied
as detailed above, there is danger
that the trailer could roll backwards!
Automatic Handbrake Lever (Fig.
43):
Ensure handbrake is fully applied (as
highlighted). This will ensure that the
gas strut or spring cylinder will
automatically re-apply the wheel brakes
if the trailer starts to roll backwards.
Caution:
If the handbrake is not fully applied
as detailed above, there is danger
that that the trailer could roll
backwards!



I take it you have the spring and not the gas strut as you mention power store.

Nothing is mentions about 10" delay - possibly because the design of the reverse mechanism allows the brakes to disengage only when the van is being reversed by the tow vehicle and will move to the normal position when the reversing operation stops

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In both cases above it says the brakes are only reapplied if the trailer moves backwards (after reversing into position). The Alko link above in Michael's post (next to fig 5) says that it may take 10 inches to do this. So in conclusion before the caravan moves backwards (ie when it is parked with the handbrake on), the brakes are not applied and are therefore nowhere near the wheel and therefore cannot bind ?!?

I'll probably give up now as my head hurts......



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Quote: Originally posted by shirl250 on 09/10/2010

I'll probably give up now as my head hurts......




Might be a good idea - before you scare everyone in to thinking their caravan handbrake doesn't work

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If the handbrake did work in these circumstances why would the handbrake have to be applied fully in order to prime the power store ? What would be the point of all that business other than to be ready to apply the brakes if the van moves backwards !??????

Nighty night......



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off off and more off    to prevent sticking   tnhe van should be on its leg steadies anyway   chock the wheels if worried about a slope  but off is the order of the day   for me at least 


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Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 08/10/2010
I'd have thought it good policy to move a caravan every few weeks while it's in storage, just to avoid this problem and move the tyres (presuming winter wheels not in use).

In answer to the original question, I'd have thought it depends on the steepness of the slope on the driveway in question. Chocks may not safely hold the van, in which case put the brake on!
Thing is not everyone keeps their caravan in storage elsewhere, & if you keep it at home most folks only have one place it can really go. Normally not much room left to move it about after that. At any rate I don't need to shift mine about because it's `legs down handbrake off' - sorted !

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well after reading this and our van being on the drive hubbys not got a weekly job of taking the hand break on and off a few times and once a month moving the hole van up and down the drive. 

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Quote: Originally posted by Zorro on 10/10/2010
Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 08/10/2010I'd have thought it good policy to move a caravan every few weeks while it's in storage, just to avoid this problem and move the tyres (presuming winter wheels not in use).

In answer to the original question, I'd have thought it depends on the steepness of the slope on the driveway in question. Chocks may not safely hold the van, in which case put the brake on!
Thing is not everyone keeps their caravan in storage elsewhere, & if you keep it at home most folks only have one place it can really go. Normally not much room left to move it about after that. At any rate I don't need to shift mine about because it's `legs down handbrake off' - sorted !

Doesn't "sort" your tyres flat-spotting, though, does it?

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Well, I finally got round to taking a pic of the situation in the OP...



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