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02/3/2011 at 9:48am
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I recently bought a elddis advante 554 we have only used it twice, we have had loads of problems with it the build quality is very poor really dissapointed with this van so mouch so we have traded it in for a new bailey ancona which we pick up in april.

I have not heard much about the ancona any reports would be great if anyone could help even though Ive bought it , it would be intersting to find out if there are any problems.

thanks



02/3/2011 at 10:08am
 Location: Cheshire
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Quote: Originally posted by dlm7897 on 02/3/2011

I recently bought a elddis advante 554 we have only used it twice, we have had loads of problems with it the build quality is very poor really dissapointed with this van so mouch so we have traded it in for a new bailey ancona which we pick up in april.

I have not heard much about the ancona any reports would be great if anyone could help even though Ive bought it , it would be intersting to find out if there are any problems.

thanks


Unfortunately, as this model was only unveiled at the Manchester show at the end of January, then it isn't in general use yet - so I dare I say it if there are any faults and flaws to be found its likely to be early buyers like yourselves who will find them first.  Maybe some of the caravan magazines have done reviews on them and may have a couple of criticisms and of course plenty of praise.

That said I really like the new Pegasus, and have seen the Ancona inside & out.  I did find that the overhead cabinets above the kitchen were very flimsy and on a couple of models the button fasteners were broken (the actual button had fallen out) but Im sure thats easily fixed.  I just felt that although the layout felt spacious on first impression, if there were 5 inside the caravan then for us the rear triple bunk & dinette would feel more roomy of the two layouts and storage would be at a premium - but Im loving those big deep lockers!.



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02/3/2011 at 7:09pm
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thanks for that hope we dont have any problems with the one we get .

we had a riva dandy (got fed up of putting it up and down) before we got our first van which was a coachman amara loved that but just not enough room in it for us otherwise we would have kept it..



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03/3/2011 at 6:36pm
 Location: Somerset
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I had an interesting converation with a couple of lads on a site last week about Baily.  I quite like the look of the new Alu tech fronts on the vans, though it's not everyones cup of tea.  I was talking to a mate about it and it seems like a marmite situation, he hates the look of them.  But his main point for not liking them was the issue of dents on the front of the van from towing.

I had look at a couple of vans on site, and sure enough this proved to be correct.  The owner said that his van was one of the first off the line, and that the cowling on the bottom of newer models was now higher to cope with this, and that Bailey offered a type of poly coating for the front lower areas, which they charged £50 a pop to put on?  However, from what I could see stone dents of decent sizes were evident quite high up the front.

I guess the way past this is to tow with a front cover.

I didn't realise how many stones are thrown back at the vans whilst we tow, it's probably the case that the fibre glass fronts is just much more capable than the alu fronts of putting up with this kind of hammering.

Tony B



04/3/2011 at 1:16am
 Location: Lancashire
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Two words: Mud Flaps.

The problem with stone dents seems to depend very much on the tow car. Fitting a set of cheap mud flaps tends to cure the problem, apparently, and the newer Baileys are, as you say, toughened at the front to help deal with any problems.

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04/3/2011 at 8:39am
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Thanks  for all your help ..Ive bought some mud flaps for are car hope that will make a difference, think i might buy cover just in case ..

going away with the new van as soon as we get it because the dealer who we have bought it has given us two night at a caravan site which is nice never had that before when we bought are others vans....



04/3/2011 at 6:34pm
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Agreed.  Must admint this last break was my first in the wet with my latest pull.  When I got there the front of my van was mired. 

With the state of the roads recently, some of the pebels which you see laying around  are quite big, so if this much mud comes back on your van, your going to get a few rocks with it aswell.

I think I'm going to treat myself to a tow cover and some flaps aswell.

Tony B



08/3/2011 at 4:10pm
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on the issue of stone dents, I remember watching the interview with Simon Howard of Bailey and feeling a great deal of annoyance - and this was before I took the plunge with the Unicorn.

But I did read that the new Unicorn was the first to have the improved bumper stuff, and can safely say have had no issues so far. The mudflaps recommendation seems to be a good bet and makes logical sense, though I agree that you shouldn't have to go to such lengths in the first place!


01/4/2011 at 4:16pm
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we had a good look round the Orion today and are very taken with the 430/4. So much for our 7k budget. We're 99% certain we're going back tommorrow to put a deposit down on one.



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01/4/2011 at 5:17pm
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savanne - as a matter of interest would you mind saying what age group you are in - 20-30, 30-40, 40-50, over 50?

I only ask after looking at these vans myself and whilst my opinion is that they would appeal to younger families
they wouldn't be so attractive to oldies like me - ie retirees.

Thanks,
Al

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01/4/2011 at 5:28pm
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Hi, I'm 39, we do have a 15 yr old and a 12yr old but the 15yr old rarely comes with us (likes to stay with grandparents). The weight, great bathroom and fact it will fit on our drive are the main selling points for us. The fact its got a fixed bed is a bonus as its what we wanted all along but wondered if we were being selfish as it dose take up a fair bit of space.

The compromise we are making is lack of cupboard space and the fact we started out with a 7k budget(lol) but coming from tents we have a couple of storage units we'll use in the awning for some of the food, games etc.



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18/6/2011 at 11:50pm
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Hello, just wondering how you are getting with your new Orion, I,m interested in also buy one, many thanks for any info, dave


19/6/2011 at 9:00am
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Regarding mudflaps, if you have a vehicle that is fairly high off the ground such as most 4x4's it is worth looking at the spray suppression flaps as fitted to many large goods vehicles. They have a type of 'matting' that stops anything bouncing off violently and can be cut down to attach to the lower half of existing mud flaps with small bolts and a retaining bar. I've seen a couple this year and I'm thinking about fitting them to mine so that they almost touch the road when the suspension is fully compressed. Maybe some enterprising person will bring out a kit containing all that is needed?

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19/6/2011 at 11:29am
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Would love to hear from anyone who has bought the "Orion"  ? and if so how are you getting on with it ?....


13/7/2011 at 9:00pm
 Location: Plymouth Devon
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Got our Orion 450/5 back in May, and we are well impressed. We love everything about it and the layout is superb, our 3 girls all have their own space and its great not having to put beds up and down. For a "basic" caravan it does seem to have some nice touches, however our 1 and it is only 1 moan is the toilet door handle. Its like a normal door handle and sticks out from the door and the number of times your in the kitchen area and step back or turn around and catch yourself on the handle. very annoying.



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