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21/6/2011 at 4:13pm
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Sorry Phil, but a link to a thread on Pistonheads is NOT proof of illegality!!


21/6/2011 at 6:04pm
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Tell the bloke who was convicted for driving without due care and attention!!

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21/6/2011 at 6:21pm
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I don't think it is a risk I would take (especially knowing the state of the floor of my car! )  Seriously, if there is something on the floor of your car that causes pain/injury (glass, stones etc.) then it could cause a momentary lapse of attention which could result in an accident, I suppose.

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Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 21/6/2011

Tell the bloke who was convicted for driving without due care and attention!!

Phil



I think the real offence he was convicted for is quite clearly not driving in bare feet.

He says "I got arrested for driving in bare feet once so can honestly say that it is illegal! I was on the way home from the beach in Newquay, back in the day, and was stopped for driving a diesel Maestro (with no brake lights) and when I hopped out the plod nicked for me inadequate foot wear too. "

As for "arrested for driving in bare feet" How people will stretch a story!!

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21/6/2011 at 7:18pm
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And as I said it was on Pistonheads, which doesn't have the greatest or highest reputation for accuracy!


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The only way you could be convicted for any footwear or lack of it would be if it could be shown you were not in proper control of the car

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21/6/2011 at 8:33pm
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Don't know how many ways we have to say this but there is no offence of driving in bare feet. However, if by driving in bare feet, (if the facts fit the case), you do not have adequate control over the car you can, potentially, be charged with driving without due care and attention. That is the offence.

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Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 21/6/2011

Don't know how many ways we have to say this but there is no offence of driving in bare feet. However, if by driving in bare feet, (if the facts fit the case), you do not have adequate control over the car you can, potentially, be charged with driving without due care and attention. That is the offence.

Phil




I think history tells us that you can be fitted up for whatever any crime they think you are guilty of - facts or no facts.

For me my I'm more likely to be charged with driving without due care and attention after looking at the totty on the pavement than for driving with bare feet!! There are many distractions when driving and a good driver manages and avoids distractions which would impair their ability.

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21/6/2011 at 9:44pm
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Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 21/6/2011

Don't know how many ways we have to say this but there is no offence of driving in bare feet. However, if by driving in bare feet, (if the facts fit the case), you do not have adequate control over the car you can, potentially, be charged with driving without due care and attention. That is the offence.

Phil


Well explained, I wouldn't drive with bare feet for the risk of not being able to apply the brake in an emergency or hurting my feet!

 

Also I suspect if you get sweaty feet there is the potential for your feet to slip off the pedals - that’s why you dry off shoes on carpet before driving!

 



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As said, I don't do it, but don't agree there is necesarily a problem with it.  There could also be problems with your shoes, socks or any other article of clothing worn on your feet that could cause lack of concentration.  Along with your cardigan, anorak etc.

People don't generally get pulled up for it as far as I know, but there again don't get pulled up for wearing dark sunglasses on a dark day, dirty windows, noisy kids, noisy wife (or husband for that matter), or any of the other seemingly small things, which in reality could cause an a big accident if you don't manage the situation properly.  And I am glad about this, becuase it would prove that we really do live an a nanny state if they did.

There may however be a case to answer if it were noted at the point of an accident that one of these things may have been the cause of the accident so from that perspective, if you cannot drive safely, whilst not wearing shoes, or indeed wearing sunglasses, or have kids in the car, then you shouldn't do it.  If however you can do one of the these things and drive safely, which may include cleaning your carpet, or managing the kids properly so that they are not constantly disrupting the driving, then you should be allowed to do it.

If it doesn't affect the safe driving of the vehicle then what is the problem?

Tony B



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22/6/2011 at 2:20pm
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No problem...as you say. Development of the law is an area I used to follow in a former life as the job depended upon it and one example is the mobile phone. They used to argue that driving whilst using the phone was not a problem and then anecdotal evidence turned to hard facts that there was a link to using the phone and a lack of control over the car. They used to prosecute for driving without due care and attention and, eventually, they introduced the specific offence of using the phone whilst driving.

The cases of accidents related to driving with bare feet are few and far between and so Parliament does not see it as a problem that would warrant Parliamentary time to address. It is a fact, however, that there have been cases where the link has been made to a Courts' satisfaction to secure prosecutions. Driving along without having to stop suddenly is the easy part. It's generally the other driver who c***s up and you have to slam all on. If you can't control that sufficiently with bare feet, and, anecdotally there is a suggestion that you can't, then, potentially you end up in the dock for someone else's mad moment at the wheel.

Must say, I have a similar problem with cruise control. You get to an age when the feet start to feel a bit dead after driving for some time and you need to streatch. Particularly along a mothorway where the body remains in the same spot for hours. Rather than stop and loosen the shoes (or take them off), cruise control permits you to do that (and I've done it...naughty boy) but I don't like the hands off approach to driving that cruise control gives you, so I rarely use it. Prefer my own control.

Just grateful I'm past the "managing the kids properly" stage

Phil 



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22/6/2011 at 2:22pm
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ps...when I said "I don't like the hands off approach to driving that cruise control gives you," I didn't mean literally

Phil



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