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01/8/2011 at 3:35pm
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During school holidays, we have tried a couple of "Tranquil Park" sites. They are all adult only and usualy of a high standard. Chatting to fellow caravanners, they mostly say the've nothing against children but tend to leave the club sites to the families. Mrs W and I agree. We'll go back to the CC sites later in the year when the've quietened down a bit.


01/8/2011 at 5:18pm
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try using an adults only site or one that has an adults only area - then you only have to put up with selfish grown ups.  I don't let my kids outside until at least 8.30am and then they have to stay quiet.  I also use ear plugs so I don't lay awake listening to other people chopsing and partying until the early hours!

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01/8/2011 at 6:05pm
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Well, everyone has their own opinions of what is, or isn't acceptable.  Within reason, where noise/sound/cooking odours are concerned, a little give and take has to be applied.

where I draw the line is invasive behaviour and damage to personal property.  That includes cycling/running onto my pitch (which I have paid for to use without interference), and ball games where my caravan/car/ myself can be hit.    I would not think anyone could say that is unreasonable and, before they do, just bear in mind these requirements are already covered in the C.C. rules Page 286  4d

For serious matters, it may be time that wardens, with the backing from  Club Headquarters, started to impose a few suspensions/bans.  And that already exists in the C.C. rules - Page 285 3g

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01/8/2011 at 9:06pm
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Rowntree, was the most regimented site we stopped on last year so I'm surprised, the only people who annoyed us was the wardens hedge cutting at 7.45am ,hello we are on holiday, I agree noisy kids at 7am is a joke,by the way I've got 2 teenagers, it makes me feel like when we take the dog out at 11.30pm ,go find he early risers and give their parents what we have to put up wth early morning, it amazes me what time these kids and parents are up and dressed,shouting around the park, a little tip, the blinds are down for a reason! !!!.


02/8/2011 at 8:16am
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Re: hedge cutting and mowing.  Has to be done, we know. But even on C.C. sites, the staff are heavily into mechanisation.  Every little chore across the site sems to involve a garden-vehicle with trailer.  The other year, at one C.C. site, a couple were relaxing outside their van. A C.C. staff member arrived with his motorised transport and, using a petrol hedge trimmer, set about one small bit of the hedge adjacent to their pitch.  After cutting back a whole 3 feet or so, he loaded a couple of armfuls of cuttings into the trailer and set of to somewhere else on the site.

Also, I cannot see why they don't have the strategically placed extra EHU, and use quieter, non-smelly electrically-powered tools.

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02/8/2011 at 7:12pm
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Re: that departure that starting knocking down in the evening and then pulled off at 6:00 am.

I just wonder whether there might have been something happening there that wasn't apparent to an outsider.

Last weekend we were due to leave on Saturday morning. About 2:00 am my daughter woke up suddenly, vomitted and carried on doing that for about the next two hours. Anyone near the tent might have heard us heaving a sleeping bag and inflatible bed outside because that was all we could do.

About 3:00 am my son had an accident (might been the disturbance) so that was another sleeping bag and bed out.

So now me and mum had no sleeping bags and it was the coldest part of the morning. I went for a predawn walk round to get warm and brewed up at dawn.

From 6:00 we were cleaning up and deflating beds (which always makes a bit of noise).

We started on the tent frame about 8:30 because you just don't spend longer in a sick scented tent than you have to.

But to the people around us we probably just sounded like people packing up too early.

The ones who pulled off your site might have been inconsiderate or responding to something like a family emergency: you can't always tell.

But everything else sounds like inconsiderate behaviour.

Better luck next time.

 

 



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02/8/2011 at 9:49pm
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I have no problems with kids playing footie or racing around on bikes etc Couples sat up chatting, although 1.30 is a bit late.

Have to agree with the packing up late into the evening and going before 6, tv's in awnings? Whats that about, i don't want to know what your watching. No need for playing music, what are mp3 players for!

Sounds to me that having to put up with all these things would make anyone grumpy!

Are c&cc sites the same? We have just joined, only for the forest holidays discount, NOT sure i want to use club sites. Don't do this, don't do that, it's the rules you know! I'm all for quiet evenings, but no balls on a family campsite?



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03/8/2011 at 7:40am
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Reminds me of a CL we stayed on a couple of weeks ago in Scotland. One couple up and about around 7ish and getting ready to pack up and leave with their caravan. No problem with that as they were trying to be as quiet as they could. The problem was the motor mouth on the other side of us who came out and started to shout across to them asking where they were off to next etc. Our blinds were down, clue there,  obviously that was me awake and up. I went into the awning with a cuppa and watched the poor people packing up opposite trying to mime back to motor mouth in reply. Bless them.

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03/8/2011 at 9:18am
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These people can be a pain when pitched next to you; but think of their neighbours stuck with them at home. As a last resort, a caravan is movable.

Bertie.



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03/8/2011 at 9:22am
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Quote: Originally posted by holtpj on 02/8/2011

I have no problems with kids playing footie or racing around on bikes etc Couples sat up chatting, although 1.30 is a bit late.

Have to agree with the packing up late into the evening and going before 6, tv's in awnings? Whats that about, i don't want to know what your watching. No need for playing music, what are mp3 players for!

Sounds to me that having to put up with all these things would make anyone grumpy!

Are c&cc sites the same? We have just joined, only for the forest holidays discount, NOT sure i want to use club sites. Don't do this, don't do that, it's the rules you know! I'm all for quiet evenings, but no balls on a family campsite?


Holtpj -

I am a member of both clubs and as I said in original post had not had this, at least in such a combination, before. Never stayed on a Forest Holidays site.

The issue with the children on bikes was that they were ignoring the road signs and were in danger.

With respect to ball games, this is a very compact site with no play area, there is no space to play that is not next to a caravan. However, Rowntree park is right next door with all the space you could want, again inconsiderate parents not wanting to supervise children in park but happy for them to play ball outside someone else's caravan. 



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03/8/2011 at 10:30am
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Quote: Originally posted by holtpj on 02/8/2011

Are c&cc sites the same? We have just joined, only for the forest holidays discount, NOT sure i want to use club sites. Don't do this, don't do that, it's the rules you know! I'm all for quiet evenings, but no balls on a family campsite?



There's even more rules at the forest holiday sites! No making washing lines using the trees (tree damage/fire hazard apparantly) and so on. They patrol every day and check every camper to see there are no bbq's in the wrong areas, etc. Very overpriced if the one in N.Wales is anything to go by.

C&CC club sites are usually very well maintained and lovely places to go. The main sites usually have a designated play area for ball games, they just don't want them around the units. Not sure about the school hols though! JMHO.

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03/8/2011 at 11:59am
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Quote: Originally posted by holtpj on 02/8/2011

I have no problems with kids playing footie or racing around on bikes etc Couples sat up chatting, although 1.30 is a bit late.

Have to agree with the packing up late into the evening and going before 6, tv's in awnings? Whats that about, i don't want to know what your watching. No need for playing music, what are mp3 players for!

Sounds to me that having to put up with all these things would make anyone grumpy!

Are c&cc sites the same? We have just joined, only for the forest holidays discount, NOT sure i want to use club sites. Don't do this, don't do that, it's the rules you know! I'm all for quiet evenings, but no balls on a family campsite?



Sponge balls are one thing, but real footballs/tennis balls etc and caravans/MHs (or cars for that matter) are not a good combination.

It's too late once your van has a dent or scuff, that's why the clubs say no balls around the pitches.




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03/8/2011 at 6:11pm
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Would it help if wardens were a bit more observant and put a stop to any activities that infringed the rules, instead of waiting for another camper to complain?  That way, at least, confrontation/aggression between campers would be avoided.

Bertie.



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03/8/2011 at 7:28pm
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Its not only kids its the inconsiderate adults who abandon their kids and sit up playing music (loudly)and talking (loudly) till late at night early hours. People need to remember caravans are not bricks and mortar, are not soundproofed and souns carries!!!! Moan over.

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04/8/2011 at 8:32am
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This must occur on a regular basis:-

Club imposes rules, which wardens are supposed to oversee. Camping members accept rules (automatic when joining).  Unruly member breaks rules. Considerate camper complains to unruly one.  Unruly camper, of course, claims to be doing nothing wrong.

What usually happens next???

Bertie.



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04/8/2011 at 9:06am
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Unruly camper isn`t usually so polite with the reply Bertie !
Some wardens like a social life away from the site and go out of an evening , not against the rules of life but is not on hand to witness or curtail unruly behaviour therefore making complaining and getting a result difficult . We of the quiet camping sector just have to research the sites carefully and hopefully avoid what we do not like .
The noisy `I`ve paid for my pitch and I`ll do what I like when I like brigade` and their offspring who will often go the same way , hopefully will get fed up with camping and caravanning pretty quickly and sell up .



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