Ok, playing devils advocate here. Is it still wrong to keep a dog in a caravan that is well ventilated and cool whilst you visit a restaurant in the evening for a couple of hours? Let's assume that this dog has access to fresh water, had earlier been on a substantial walk and was mature enough to fall happily asleep on the couch as soon as the owners had left. Oh and the blinds closed on the van...
I think it's wrong to leave them even if it's cool yes, I adore dogs but have had to listen to abandoned dogs barking for a few hours more than once and it frustrates me that it's giving us all a bad name and worry that fellow campers might think it's one of ours barking.
I know a few people who leave theirs and they all say they've stood and listened before they go and have asked their neighbours to keep an eye and it's always been quiet but they are animals and nobody can guarantee that something wont spook it and set it off and it only takes one occasion to spoil other peoples holidays and tar every dog owner.
Of course nobody minds a dog being left by a solo camper while they have a quick shower but going off site is another matter.
If it's cool enough in the caravan then it's cool enough to take it and leave it in the car while people have a meal out.
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Quote: Originally posted by adandemsmom on 29/5/2012
We don't leave our dog at all, not even for a toilet/shower trip. I suppose that would be the only feesible reason for leaving one, if you were a lone camper?
I camped alone last year, with my dog. Showered in the evening after the sun had gone down and it was dark and cool, quick as possible. The first time I left the dog in the caravan and she howled for twenty minutes. 2nd time I put her in the car, drove across the field and parked up next to the showers, and left her in the car (she never howls in the car) also after dark when cool. Got some funny looks from campers who were probably wondering why I couldn't walk 50 yeards to the shower block! I did think about sneaking her into the shower room with me, but I would probably have got reported!
when we are away with our five greyhounds in the caravan and they look like they are getting hot they lay outside in the shade of the caravan with a cold wet towel over them.
we would never leave leave them on their own in the caravan
people who do just disgust me.
------------- greyhounds love the caravan so much so they think it is their mobile kennel
We would never leave our dog alone in the van...(he might drink all my beer!!)
Seriously though, our dog is part of the family, he goes where we go.
For that reason we tend to choose dog friendly places to visit.
If for any reason we're going somewhere that doesn't allow dogs,one of us always stays outside with him (or we take it in shifts to sit with him).
If people don't want their dogs with them on holiday they should put them in kennels for the duration.
Last place we stayed on the couple on the next pitch left their lab all day and it cried an howled all day. It'd cruel and inconsderate. We have 2 dogs and would never leave except when at the showers!
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When single handed with my boys and the dog she would only be left unattended - outside with shade and water - during the 'washblock' trips.
Supermarket trips are another great difficulty especically as so many places have taken away their hooks in the wall for dogs. I usually come out to find several children on top of and wrapped around my dog because she's a golden retriever and therefore the next thing to a stuffed toy. right?
I have had to resort to leaving my 7 year old and the dog in the bus with a side door wide open and run in and out of the supermarket with the 3.5 year old ... I use the little 'service station' type supermarkets for this as you can lose hours in a main supermarket - it happened to us once in Glasgow and someone notified the supermarket and called us out but the dog was fine - the temp inside the van was OK, (windows down, air circulation thing on, she was shaded, she had a variety of seats to choose between including the footwells and plenty of water.) I was glad to be called out though - much better to find her safe and comfortable than the alternative.
My biggest worry is what should happen if we have to do a Casualty trip ...
We have left our dog in the van in the evening if we have a get together with family on site she is quite happy we pull the blinds
down except for the ones in the awning we check on her often and she is usually asleep hot weather is different matter "although with the blinds down and roof vents open it it often cooler in the van " we tend to do everything with the dog taking priority
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We often leave our four dogs along with the cat in the caravan as they are used to it. It is often cooler in the caravan than on the outside if the blinds are pulled down and the windows left open. They always have plenty of water so no issue. People who live in statics which is a caravan often leave their animals inside anyway.
After all which is better, dragging the dogs around on a boiling hot day or leaving them in a cool caravan with plenty of ventilation. Obviously we do not leave them for hours on end, but only for an hour or so. They have never shown any signs of distress at any time.
We regard ourselves as responsible dog owners and would welcome any inspection by RSPCA or their ilk at any time.
If the dog is quiet when left in the caravan/motorhome and it is a cool day I see no problem to leave it for a little while.As long as our little dog has her favourite toy, water and plenty of ventilation then she is quite happy.We often leave her for a trip to the supermarket or out for a meal.She is as much at home in our motorhome as she is in our house.We always ask our neighbours on the site if she has made any noise.Up to now she has been as good as gold.She usually sleeps the time away anyway.Otherwise she goes everywhere with us.She travels miles on the buses with us and last year went on the ferry to the Isle of Wight and round the island on the bus.Also as said before she loves going in her basket on the bikes with us.No way would we consider ourselves cruel owners for leaving her for a couple of hours in the motorhome.
Leaving the dog all day and most of the evening is a no no to me. I don't have a dog, hubby wants one at some point but when we know that we aren't going to be out from 8am till 6ish working.
However we do have cats and they come on holiday with us and they are left in the van whilst we are out, but since taking them with us we have changed how long we are away from the van for. We have just gotten back from Cornwall but when leaving them the blinds were down, window's open with fly sheet's down, vents open and on the hotter days a fan left on. The owners of the site know's we do this and are fine with it. But our cats are use to being left all day when at home but love fuss and attention when we are at home in the evenings, this is why we take them. If when we get a dog though it will be a different story and when out all day the dog will come with us. I think in regards to if it is left for an hour or so whilst say food shopping etc then that should depend on if the dog is use to being on it's own for a bit. If dog isn't use to it then don't leave them
If the dog is quiet when left in the caravan/motorhome and it is a cool day I see no problem to leave it for a little while.As long as our little dog has her favourite toy, water and plenty of ventilation then she is quite happy.We often leave her for a trip to the supermarket or out for a meal.She is as much at home in our motorhome as she is in our house.We always ask our neighbours on the site if she has made any noise.Up to now she has been as good as gold.She usually sleeps the time away anyway.Otherwise she goes everywhere with us.She travels miles on the buses with us and last year went on the ferry to the Isle of Wight and round the island on the bus.Also as said before she loves going in her basket on the bikes with us.No way would we consider ourselves cruel owners for leaving her for a couple of hours in the motorhome.
I agree entirely with this post. I see nothing wrong with leaving the dog for an hour to go to the supermarket or a quick meal. Of course it does depend on the dog. Our dog comes ALMOST everywhere with us. Since we got him nearly 10 years ago we have adapted our holidays to suit and got him his pet passport so he can come with us. Would I like occasionally to fly to Cyprus or Tenerife for a bit of winter sun? You bet I would but we dont because we drive so the dog can come too (although we do manage a 5 day city break when our daughters can dog sit). When we are on holiday we are happy to forego certain activities/places to go because dogs arent allowed. We walk for hours and hours so that the dog gets well exercised. We plan everything around our dog being able to have shade/places to swim. Do we mind leaving him after he is well exercised in a cool campervan where he is happy to sleep on a double bed while we pop in for a quick meal (if the only restaurant bar in the area doesnt permit dogs) or to the supermarket? No we dont. Nor do we leave him for hours at a time.
I'll be taking my 11 month old Bichon caravanning this weekend for the first time.
I will be with loads of other people I know, also in caravans, and I already have kids volunteering to walk her so she definately will not be left alone in the van at any point.... the noise she would make if I left her alone would get me lynched.
This is a practice run before I go to Wales for two weeks. If she's not a nightmare (she does like the sound of her own voice and she gets very car sick) she can come to Wales too, otherwise she will have to stay with family.