Quote: Originally posted by fife-bloke on 13/1/2014
I think caravan insurance should be a legal requirement, but admittantly would be impossible to police
It is a legal requirement where it is actually needed, which is for third party cover while towing & is included with the car insurance.
We have our caravan insured even though it is worth around £1700,plus extras,awning etc.We paid around £50 for the year,£12 to CRIS to register it to us,under £75 for peace of mind,and the knowledge should the worst happen,well you know.
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Quote: Originally posted by fife-bloke on 13/1/2014I think caravan insurance should be a legal requirement, but admittantly would be impossible to police
It is a legal requirement where it is actually needed, which is for third party cover while towing & is included with the car insurance.
That is incorrect as it is the car's third party that covers the caravan while towing there you do not have to have the caravan insured.
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 12/1/2014
If I had a £22000 caravan I think I would be tempted to insure it but the caravan I used to own was worth less than £300 and I didn't insure it.
Take a look at your car insurance because mine covered the caravan whilst being towed or parked up and still attached to the car. I hadn't actually thought about whether I would be insured if the caravan broke free while under tow. I have a feeling I was covered for any accident while towing.
I felt that the cost of insuring it wasn't worth it for £300 and I couldn't think of any scenario whereby insurance might be required when in storage or on site, the only exception being if it slipped it's brake and careered off down the campsite bowling over everyone and everything in it's path but I thought that was highly unlikely with the steadies down.
I think you should check this, you will be covered by the car insurance whilst towing for third party damage. Not damage to your caravan. Also should the caravan become detached this could be a grey area.
That said the contents of your caravan will most likely be covered by your household contents insurance, thats why I exclude this from my policy. (NOTE items considered to be equipment will not be covered by your contents cover) I found this out when I had a total loss and the caravan insurance company said I had double cover. They don't tell you this when you take the policy out and pay the premium.
Quote: Originally posted by rushallmanor on 15/1/2014
Also should the caravan become detached this could be a grey area.
It is not a grey area & if your point of contact with your car insurer(ie low paid call centre staff)suggest this then they are wrong. The caravan is insured by your car insurance while towing & read your caravan ins. t&c's, it will give you 3rd party cover, except when caravan is being towed because it is covered by the towcar insurance.
The caravan becoming detached while towing resulting in a 3rd party claim for damage caused would have to be treated no differently from roofbox/bikes/roofrack luggage etc becoming detached from car while driving.
Quote: Originally posted by rushallmanor on 15/1/2014Also should the caravan become detached this could be a grey area.
It is not a grey area & if your point of contact with your car insurer(ie low paid call centre staff)suggest this then they are wrong. The caravan is insured by your car insurance while towing & read your caravan ins. t&c's, it will give you 3rd party cover, except when caravan is being towed because it is covered by the towcar insurance.
The caravan becoming detached while towing resulting in a 3rd party claim for damage caused would have to be treated no differently from roofbox/bikes/roofrack luggage etc becoming detached from car while driving.
I am not sure where you have obtained your information from as the caravan is not insured at any time when it is being towed by any vehicle on any public or private road.
It only has third party cover so if you are travelling and the caravan flips and is written off and there are no other parties are involved, there is no pay out as you cannot claim off the car insurance. The third party cover is in case damages have to be paid to a third party, i.e. the caravan while being towed comes loose and crashes into another car.
Oh do stop splitting hairs, you know perfectly well what point I am putting across.....It is caravan owner's choice if they insure caravan. If they choose not to then they get nothing back for fire/damage/loss so if caravan is worth very little then they might choose not to.
Third party claims are a different matter & for these the caravan is covered by car insurance when towing.
Quote: Originally posted by Jack+Jon on 15/1/2014
Oh do stop splitting hairs, you know perfectly well what point I am putting across.....It is caravan owner's choice if they insure caravan. If they choose not to then they get nothing back for fire/damage/loss so if caravan is worth very little then they might choose not to.
Third party claims are a different matter & for these the caravan is covered by car insurance when towing.
I am not splitting hairs as your post gives the impression that the caravan is insured while being towed when it is not.
"I am not splitting hairs as your post gives the impression that the caravan is insured while being towed when it is not."
Funny that's not what the C&CC told me.
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"I am not splitting hairs as your post gives the impression that the caravan is insured while being towed when it is not"
"If you take out car insurance with Churchill, your caravan or trailer would be covered under the same policy as your vehicle when you are towing it but at third party only level."
Read it how you like but legally the caravan is insured under the car policy but only for third party risk.
saxo1
Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 15/1/2014
"I am not splitting hairs as your post gives the impression that the caravan is insured while being towed when it is not"
"If you take out car insurance with Churchill, your caravan or trailer would be covered under the same policy as your vehicle when you are towing it but at third party only level."
Read it how you like but legally the caravan is insured under the car policy but only for third party risk.
saxo1
That's what Ian is saying. Third party risk only, if anything happens you won't get a penny for the van. If the van is insured however then you SHOULD be compensated.
I mean is £100 a year really going to hurt anyone? Isn't even £2 a week, chances are the people who say I can't afford it spend more than that on Sunday newspapers. (Not intended to sound like I'm having a pop at anyone btw) I just fail to grasp why anyone would spend a sizeable chunk of cash on a caravan and not spend a tiny bit more to insure it.
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As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.
I know perfectly well 'what Ian is saying' & from my earlier posts it is perfectly clear that I was saying exactly the same thing so lets move on & see what else 'Ian' can pick holes in......
I think what is being missed here is while an owner might believe his 20odd yr old caravan is worth £1000 after he has spent money servicing/repairing it &/or paid over the odds for it from a dealer etc, the insurance company would have trouble believing that a 20odd yr old caravan had not been scrapped yrs ago. I would guess the average life of a caravan is around 15yrs, any older than that, only a small fraction are left that have not gone to caravan heaven/hell.
An old caravan worth a grand in pristine condition would be worthless if it was damp sodden scrap so no firm value can probably be put on those older than around 10yrs really.
On a good day in springtime I might get £400 for mine on ebay & I'm sure a dealer would want double that but I doubt an insurance payout would be more that £150 so in my 4th yr of ownership I'm at least £100 in pocket & rising by not bothering to insure it.
A lot depends of course upon the age of your caravan. We certainly didn't bother with older second hand vans. Now that we are lucky enough to be able to afford a new van, and had our previous 6 month old van stolen, we would not be without new for old insurance.
It is not a grey area & if your point of contact with your car insurer(ie low paid call centre staff)suggest this then they are wrong. The caravan is insured by your car insurance while towing & read your caravan ins. t&c's,
The caravan becoming detached while towing resulting in a 3rd party claim for damage caused would have to be treated no differently from roofbox/bikes/roofrack luggage etc becoming detached from car while driving.
Attitude!!!!
this was a nice discussion
not all insurance policies are the same so we must agree to differ!