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03/8/2014 at 11:16am
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Quote: Originally posted by brianconwy on 03/8/2014
The main problems with caravans is the body construction, which until recently has used methods that date back to the first caravans and wood which is not a material used in many road vehicles.
Well, I'm old enough to remember the introduction of bonded construction - caravan dealers used to have display sample of wall construction, and were trained to give you chapter and verse on this amazing new method, and how it would revolutionise the caravan industry.
Which it did - but perhaps not in the way they meant. Leaks became much harder to spot (due to the vinyl wall covering) and subsequently much more difficult to repair.
However, the problem wasn't inherent in the bonded walls, etc, but in the careless way that joints were sealed.
It's worth remembering that German caravans enjoy an excellent reputation, and they are also bonded construction one can assume that their superiority is down to greater care taken to construct them.
Bailey made a big step forward with Alutech (we own one) but it was a change that was probably forced on them due to the huge numbers of their previous vans leaking and rotting within warranty periods.
Even now, with all the advantages of Alutech, many water ingress problems are being reported due to insufficient (or even a total lack) of sealant, particularly at the body/floor joints
That is simply inexcusable - and is indicative of the low standards of workmanship that Bailey appear to consider acceptable.
Exactly the same comments could aptly to Swift and Elddis, btw.
So, yes! - let's have a robot to apply the sealant. It won't get fed up, it won't be too idle to put the correct amount on, it won't miss bits, and it won't send the caravan on to the next production stage, knowing that the thing is flawed.
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04/8/2014 at 9:22pm
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Quote: Originally posted by trog100 on 04/8/2014
i aint knocking any of this but i do think the way modern caravans are made isnt based on durability.. its based on cheap flimsy flash..
Post last edited on 04/08/2014 11:18:29
Absolutely - and it's been that way for over 30 years, ever since 'bonded construction' was foisted on the caravan buying public.
What's more, the manufacturers knew/know that their products are flimsy.
There is a video on You Tube featuring an interview with the MD of Bailey. Discussing 'Alutech' (which is a big step forward, even if not a complete one) he makes an unguarded reference to the previous range of wood and screwed construction.
Bailey, usually refer to that method as 'Classic' construction (a nice euphemism) but in the interview the MD refers to it, somewhat contemptuously, as 'glue & sticks'
Which is, of course, precisely what it was - although it would have been more accurate if he'd called it, "Entirely unseasoned 20mm sticks and cheap ferrous staples"
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