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20/6/2005 at 6:21pm
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Went away this weekend and the caravan was fine.Noseweight was ok, caravan is level hitched to the car and the payload was well within limits, therefore I can only guess that the previous snaking problems were due to high wind speed and a crappy road surface i.e. "ruts/tramlines" on the M25



20/6/2005 at 7:18pm
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Quote: Originally posted by scrufts on 05/06/2005

I'm going to check with Eldiss, Vauxhall and caravan club to make sure that I have everything right. (It does get confusing though!)


Get the Vauxhall dealer to check the rear dampers (shock absorbers) on your Frontera.  If your suspension isn't working as it should, that could cause the problems you are experiencing too.

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20/6/2005 at 8:28pm
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Hi Scruffs I suppose you have listened to the best on here now listern to the rest ,

 The posts on here are all right in what they say, But I have a Frontera sport 2.8 tdi .and I have found the worst thing on motorways is the dreaded rut in the road ,I believe the frontera was made with very wide wheels for cosmetic reasons to make it look good, mine has 255x65x16 in tyres  so I try when possible to keep a foot or so to either side of the rut HAPPY VANNING TOP DOG.



20/6/2005 at 9:01pm
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The car is due for a service next month and as I am towing a heavier caravan I'll make sure that the shock absorbers are fully checked out. Interesting comment about the motorway ruts Top-Dog. Judging by the comments on this website there are a lot of members in agreement on this. I also spoke to a colleague at work who was aware of them and he also suggested that the m20 might be suspect because of all the freight traffic from Dover. Is anything done about them or is it a case of wait until they get really bad and then resurface the road?( and then more roadworks). ideas anyone?



20/6/2005 at 9:28pm
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Hi the frontera is one of the worst offenders for "Rat Runs" due to the tyres and the width of the car our van wheelbase is slighty wider than the car so the van is moving from left to right i try to sit slightly to the right/left to keep out of the dips. It can be quite offputting to have 1600kgs dancing about behind you on a motorway. The max towball weight is 112kgs and max tow is 2800kgs. We have a alko 2005 hitch on our van and as long as it is paint/grease free you should have no problems, if you hitch up at a slight angle to the van the hitch handle will clear the spare wheel cover. Just as a foot note if you take the van on a ferry check the hitch lock is down before you leave the boat, we have had ours lifted up several times by the deck hands thinking it was the handbrake.TTFN 

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08/5/2007 at 4:10pm
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As a novice to the caravan towing side of things I can't offer much.I used to mainly wire up the electric for tow bars.But as you have said you did not have a problem before with a different caravan. But for new people who have never towed before. check your tow ball is central on the car.Ive seen it a few time with manufactures and after market towing brackets. where either the bracket was made wrong or fitted wrong. and the ball was just off center. when I bought my present vehicle.I checked mine and found it was 1/2 inch of center so I fitted a new one.I know its not much but it can be overlooked. you might never notice it but it can add wear to tyres on van and car or at worse make it unstable.because when braking in an emergency it will push try to push the cars rear end to the side


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Quote: Originally posted by bordercaz on 23/4/2005

I think Jan P & T-T have said it all.

60 mph is the maximum limit, not a target to be attained at all costs.

Road & weather conditions should be taken into account when deciding on a safe speed.

Check tyre pressures & noseweight before each trip.





You and I are fortunate to have one of the most well balanced caravans available. Maybe we are not the best people to respond to this thread. Do any other caravans have the gas bottle over the axle any more?


09/5/2007 at 12:08am
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Quote: Originally posted by Magdalena on 03/6/2005
Question from a novice - all this sounds quite technical and scary. I've got a Volvo 850 estate and a 21 foot caravan. How do you check nose weight? Does this combination sound OK? Its got an ALKO but - have I any idea what kind? No I thought they were all the same.........My plan was to go at 30mph max and pin a notice saying 'SORRY' in back of van.................

Your 850 should be Fine. I towed with an 850 saloon for 8 years with no problems at all, the last 4 I towed a van with a weight of 1450kg and a noseweight of 70kg. It was stable at all legal speeds and even on the odd occasion at above legal speeds.
To check noseweight get a piece of wood ( broom handle would do or anything of at least the same sort of strength ) and making sure that your van is basically on level road put a set of scales on the floor under the hitch and the piece of wood between the hitch and the scales ( the wood should be of a length to make the caravan level). Now making sure that the brakes are on raise the jockey wheel so that it is just off the ground. Your nose weight is whatever the scales are reading.


09/5/2007 at 8:44am
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Quote: Originally posted by SoundsDigital on 08/5/2007
Quote: Originally posted by bordercaz on 23/4/2005

I think Jan P & T-T have said it all.

60 mph is the maximum limit, not a target to be attained at all costs.

Road & weather conditions should be taken into account when deciding on a safe speed.

Check tyre pressures & noseweight before each trip.





You and I are fortunate to have one of the most well balanced caravans available. Maybe we are not the best people to respond to this thread. Do any other caravans have the gas bottle over the axle any more?


Very true! But I have towed other vans over the years and even with the gas bottles at the front both my Sprites towed impeccably and the Ace & Cavalier were ok.The only one I really had a problem with was a Compass with a tiny front box and a rear kitchen - I had to put all the cutlery, pans etc in plastic crates between the front seats to get anywhere near the 50Kg towball weight for the towcar! Even then it used to hit problems at about 53 mph. I only kept it 6 months.



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09/5/2007 at 1:42pm
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Hi

Don't forget that caravan design can have an effect on stability, like the location of battery box (how heavy is a 110 amp hour battery) and wardrobes etc.

I've met many caravanners who have rear end wardrobes. Many swear they make no difference. But some who use motorways regularly (and perhaps travel a little faster) travel with their clothes on the bed.

It's difficult to compare even the same caravans because of different loading, tow car characteristics, noseweight, % kerbweight and driving techniques and speed.

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