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I was willing to believe that Lunar's had stopped leaking ..... my local Lunar Dealer said that the 'Leaky Lunar' tag was an old image which doesn't apply anymore ...... I did point him to a Lunar Quasar 462 which he was proudly displaying, it was pouring water in through the aerial .... and I mean pouring!!

He has now locked the caravan in question, it's no longer on display to the public - obviously the leaky Lunar tag remains to this day ........ that Quasar leak on a brand new van was just simply un acceptable, how did it pass whatever goes for inspection at Lunar??

Seal, or not a seal, it shouldn't leave the factory like it ...... where is the quality control?

If the product I design was allowed out of the factory gate without a seal - not only would I be sacked - but many thousands of people could lose their lives!

If you were a buyer, who had parted with £14,000 for your dream, you would quite rightly expect that the builder of that dream had taken care and delivered the dream without it turning into a nightmare!

It was raining outside, the water was pouring into the wardrobe down the mast - I work at the forefront of Science ....... if that was condensation then Lunar have re-written all the physics laws known to man.

As they cannot even build a leak free caravan, or pick up a fault in manufacture, I think that highly unlikely!!

As said above, that is one caravan - there are the same horror stories abouth other manufacturers!

We love our second hand Lunar (2007) and have no problems iwth damp or leaks.

I'm just having a laugh with all you Lunar Owners .... I might be one too if the deal for a Venus 490/4 comes off :)

That said, the water was pouring into that Lunar Quasar 462 like a good 'un!! True it was just one Lunar I have seen leak in the rain, but I've only seen about 4 - that's a 25% failure rate!!

Any one else had a look at the Venus range?

We saw the 380/2 this weekend .... not bad for the price (with the usual 10% discount).

Yes, the 490/4 and 500/4 are pretty good value at £12,000 OTR.

The double bed at 4' wide could be a challenge ... and the front bed needs making up if you want to use it as a double bed (you cannot use it as 2 singles unless for kids).

Lack of a microwave could be an issue to some - as would the unlined shower. I like the generous use of rooflights, no omnivent though. Locking window catches are a nice touch ..... not too sure about the flat single piece side aluminium (looks a bit slab sided to be honest).