Common sense is called for here we take our dog with us and in last 2 yrs we have left him alone in his crate probably 2 times as we have gone out for a meal for probably 2 hrs, we always made sure it wasn't on a warm evening and he always gets plenty of walks through the day he is a mature dog and likes to relax in his crate that's his space at home or in the van we never lock the crate but its always been his bed since we got him at 8 wks old he doesn't make any noise because the last time we did it we asked next caravan if he made any noise they said not a whimper also we have watched him through a window and he just lays on his bed and goes to sleep. We don't see it as an issue as long as you use common sense and you know your dog well
A couple of years ago we were on a site and dogs 2 or 3 of them had been left in a caravan while the owners had gone off.
They were barking furiously. It was a scorching day. We went to see the site owner and were told the owner is a very responsible person, a dog breeder who has judged at crufts. That there was plenty ventilation and fans on.
More or less told to mind our own business.
Think the dog owner had a seasonal pitch and that seemed more important to the site owner than the dogs welfare.
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reading this thread i cant actually beleive people are comparing leaving dogs in a caravan to leaving them in a car or not treating them as part of the family
we often leave our dogs alone in the caravan we shut the blinds open the 2 end windows and put a fan on they have fresh water food and there toys in 12 years this has never been a problem they have always been happy and cool i would far rather them be in there own caravan safe and happy than being dragged around in the heat being left un attended outside whilst i go in a shop where they could get hurt or stolen you cant compare having dogs to having children as children you can take everywhere you dont get told you cant take your child around asda etc if the uk was more pet friendly there wouldnt be this problem even if it meant having to use a dog buggy at least they could be with you
as for the fire risk it would be no different to leaving them in the house
Quote: Originally posted by babyjjbaby on 17/6/2016
reading this thread i cant actually beleive people are comparing leaving dogs in a caravan to leaving them in a car or not treating them as part of the family
we often leave our dogs alone in the caravan we shut the blinds open the 2 end windows and put a fan on they have fresh water food and there toys in 12 years this has never been a problem they have always been happy and cool i would far rather them be in there own caravan safe and happy than being dragged around in the heat being left un attended outside whilst i go in a shop where they could get hurt or stolen you cant compare having dogs to having children as children you can take everywhere you dont get told you cant take your child around asda etc if the uk was more pet friendly there wouldnt be this problem even if it meant having to use a dog buggy at least they could be with you
as for the fire risk it would be no different to leaving them in the house
Totally agree, For short periods we take common sense precautions and our I'm certain our dog would rather be left in a Cooled roomy caravan than a car, We're considering putting aircon unit in our caravan, who say's we don't care ?
Our Black Lab, Max, is part of our family, but he's not a barker and is happy alone in the 'van for a couple of hours, where he takes the opportunity to hop onto the seat and go to sleep.
But this happens rarely since in these days of internet I research pubs/restaurants close to campsites to ensure they're dog-friendly. If they're not, there'll usually be somewhere else.
Most evenings though it's on the pitch with the bbq & wine - which is the point surely.
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I think of recent years people have begun to lose their commonsense with regards to dogs.
Generally our dog comes everywhere with us, we don't leave her in the caravan as she is a barker and I wouldn't consider it acceptable to leave her.
I would however leave her to get a meal close by if she was exhausted by a full days walking and the weather wasn't hot. A stuffed frozen Kong would keep her happy and quiet for that time.
Leave her for a days outing in the van- no whats the point of having a dog if you do this, plus caravans can get very hot.
However this week I was driving the dog to our favorite woodland walk and stopped to post a letter.
I was shocked to be told off by a woman for having the dog in the car with the air conditioning on full and the engine running, whilst I walked 10 steps to the post box and posted a letter. It was obvious I had no intention of going elsewhere as I was halfway back to the car when she accosted me!
Apparently I should have all the windows wound down even with the air conditioning on and should drive around like that too
'I reported a car owner last summer for having a shih tzu in the car in full glaring heat with closed windows and I waited until the polce came, in the meant time if the dog had been getting distressed I would have broken the window and taken the consequences later!'
We were in Lymington Hampshire last week and one family left four dogs in a car in blazing sunshine in the Waitrose car Park.It was 23 degrees outside the car. They were in the boot of the car and the two front windows were open about three inches.After twenty minutes I rang the police and they weren't interested, They just rang the RSPCA for me.I told them I would break into the car if the dogs looked distressed.They said that would be a criminal offence.No doubt they would come out then to arrest me.
They family came back after half an hour. They were abusive when we told them how wrong it was and the son who drove the car told me to ' get out of his face' I think it's about time it was a criminal offence to leave any animal in a vehicle in hot weather.
The RSPCA did turn up but by then the car had gone. I have given them photographs of the car and the people. Will anything be done?
I'm a solo caravanner and ive never left my dog in the caravan so it is possible. You take enough food with you so you don't have to do a supermarket shop. Top up food either at the site shop with dog tied up outside or small, local shops where again dog can be tied up in view.
Use onboard facilities.
Actually I fib, dog is left when I empty the toilet cassette, for all of five mins max! Csnt be doing with her trying to trip me up during that job.
Ive sat in my caravan before listening to dogs in neighbouring caravans howling. It's not fair on other site users never mind the dog. I'm sure if questioned their owners would say that their dog is very good/doesn't mind it/wouldn't bark/will just sleep.
I’m sorry but I always take my dog everywhere with me and if I go to the shops when away either myself or my partner will stand outside with the dog. She gets well fed and watered. I always carry a water bottle with me for the dog. But we like to go out for a meal and we also enjoy a drink in the pub while away as a treat for ourselves. So we leave our dog in the caravan but she’s never in a cage and always has water left out too. The longest I’ve left her alone in the caravan for is an hour. I would never leave her alone in a van longer than that n neither would I leave her with no water.
We have been on A Club site where someone went out for the day and left a Spaniel inside their caravan with all windows shut and in full Sun. The top vent was left open on tilt, and at first the Dog was yapping its head off, which alerted several campers and the site wardens themselves, who kept returning to see if the owners had returned yet. By Lunchtime, the Dog was somewhat quieter, the warden became very concerned and rang for the RSPCA, who turned up along with the police. They forced their way in via the roof vent and brought out the poor dog who was in a very poor state, having suffered from heat exhaustion. The inspector took the dog away with him to seek vetinary help. The owners returned to site later in the evening but left the site soon afterwards after being challenged by several angry fellow campers.
The chances were that they had also suffered some damage to their roof vent caused by the rapid and forceful method the inspector and the police forced their way into their caravan.
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I don't have a dog,I'm allergic to them, but feel that you shouldn't leave a dog in a caravan for the sake of the dog and other people. I don't like dogs in eating establishments either. If you choose to have a dog you have to put up with the inconveniences as well as the benefits and organise your holiday accordingly.
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Mostly our dogs are with us however if we go shopping on a hot day they are much better off being left in the caravan. Not much fun for them being in a hot car for an hours while we are shopping.
How do you know the dog is happy? You are out. Every time imsee dogs left in vans, they bark all the time. At best it will be a coo. Day and the dog is barking all the time at anyone going by, so obviously not happy dog. At worst it will be a hot day and the dog is barking in over heat distress. But again how would the owners know the dog is happy as they are out and haven't actually got a clue.
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How do you know the dog is happy? You are out. Every time imsee dogs left in vans, they bark all the time. At best it will be a coo. Day and the dog is barking all the time at anyone going by, so obviously not happy dog. At worst it will be a hot day and the dog is barking in over heat distress. But again how would the owners know the dog is happy as they are out and haven't actually got a clue.
We know our dogs are quiet when left in the caravan for an hour or two as they are less distressed even if it is a boiling hot day. Our dogs do not suffer from heat distress if left in the caravan and we have done this on occasion when in Spain and the outside temeperture exceeds 30C!
Thank god I do my camping at dog shows and not on public sites. While I agree dogs shouldn’t be left in distressing conditions allow for some common sense to be used. When I go to run one of my dogs I hat to leave the others and where I leave them depends on conditions at the time. Sometimes they are left in the caravan, sometimes they are crates in my garden and sometimes they are left in my van. If it’s the caravan blinds are usually down and all roof vents open. If it’s in the garden they are in the shade and the crate covered with aluminium reflective sheets. If they are in the van they are in the built in crates, the portable air con devices are going and the van is covered with aluminium sheets and the back door is open. In all circumstances they have access to water.
According to the posts above my dogs should never be left in any of those circumstances. However like most working dogs they are trained to relax and switch off in these circumstances. I was amazed the first time I went to a show just how much care, attention and money went on making sure the dogs were happy and comfortable between runs.
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