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27/4/2015 at 2:39pm
Location: Teesside
Outfit: Mitsubishi ASX4
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Quote: Originally posted by Billy x on 27/4/2015The op has his practical soloution. It has been explained to him in detail. He does not appear to be interested so one hopes my contributions of real world solutions to real world problems will have been assistance to some forum members.
The op's claim to be a physics graduate is revealing though, academically gifted theorists rarely possess practical problem solving skills.
Perhaps if you read back you may realise that I was not looking for a practical solution, which makes your second paragraph look rather stupid. Indeed perhaps if you had actually read my OP, you would have seen that the extra caravan weight was offset by the extra towing capacity of my car, so with my combination there was not actual problem. I was simply curious as to the implications and the possible consequences.
Go back to my original OP, where I stated that the weight limit allowance on my car plate was higher than advertised, and curiously higher by exactly the maximum permitted towball weight.
I also stated that the plate in the gas locker of my caravan gave the overall weight of the caravan as higher than the MTPLM, again by, curiously, the recommended caravan noseweight.
I had hoped that someone might have commented on why these values are different for both the car and caravan. My own suspicion is that, by definition, MTPLM does not include the noseweight, and maybe the car plate allows for this.
However, after trawling the European Regulations and their myriad amendments it does appear that MTPLM does indeed include the noseweight:
‘technically permissible maximum laden mass’ (M) means the maximum mass allocated to a vehicle on the basis of its construction features and its design performances; the technically permissible laden mass of a trailer or of a semi-trailer includes the static mass transferred to the towing vehicle when coupled'
This therefore brings me back to two points:
1. Check the car plate for the only accurate towing limit. It would appear this can vary from the value advertised and the V5 document. I assume this is the value VOSA/the police would use on any check. Does anybody know why Mitsubishi have a plated towing weight higher than their advertised weight?
2. Certainly with Bailey caravans, don't assume the MTPLM is the actual weight of the caravan, when their own plates show that it is heavier. This ought to be a concern to anyone towing near the 100% limit.
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