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14/9/2010 at 7:42pm
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Psst big al got a mits too

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How many views to replies?, its not just disco owners that cant be f-c--d with Big Al and his prehistoric car reviews.
Like alot of past cars rust was a problem, not just a land rover but - yes - nissan/ datsun, alfa romeo, mitsubishi and the lists goes on! Now is your Mits and ovlov full of rust, doubt if you would admit it anyway, prob no! - and neither are the newer LR's - so move with the times. My V6 D3 is so smooth and quiet, my mate who owns a brand new top of the range shogun LWB - actually had the guts to tell me it was twice as quiet and a smoother ride than his. If Big Al had actually spent some time researching off road capabilities he would find that D2 & 3's/ defenders are superior in every class - along with land cruiser and nissan patrol. hence they are the most trusted 4x4 used by MOD, agricultural and the commercial world.However as I type this I know I'm wasting my time, As usual he will reply with a blinkered short and pointless answer - followed by "i'm still not having one of them" yawn, yawn, yawn, and to those who follow his shallowness, - think if we were all like BIG Al the world would be a sad place, Grow up Al or move on to a Jerry Forum!


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14/9/2010 at 9:24pm
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can i just say that many people have had cars/4x4 etc with no problems and people have had problems with same vehicles ,this is life,we have a grand cherokee 4litre that runs on gas pulls well and gives excellent mpg when not towing and good when towing has more whistles and bells than my mitsi and freelander had ,some cars like mondeo diesel will pull a train so check estate option as suggested .happy camping


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The biggest problem with UK Japanese is that they are made in the UK - get a Grey import and you won't see any rust.

Your comment about D3s being far superior is quite funny really

Oh and I do far more than just research off-road capabilities of vehicles

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14/9/2010 at 9:30pm
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Ha Ha

Still would not have one

any way D3s are old hat now............havn't Tata brought out a newer one now ?



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Like wise RC!

The one thing I don't do - is sl*g other peoples choice of car off! like Big Al! I believe the stats and proof of my own off road capabilities - because I DO ALOT of that with many varieties of 4x4's and tracked machines. Tractors and excavators. It is my belief that D3's are superior. If someone posted "jeep wrangler - what they like" I would not harp on like a baby, even if I had owned one! Thats the difference. How the F--k is everyone supposed to agree on one motor, it is never going to happen.


14/9/2010 at 9:52pm
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well when you  have given up on life!, you to could buy a volvo


14/9/2010 at 9:54pm
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Oh no surrounded by rust now


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Hey don't know why you all moaning at least you have a car. We have a 3 year old sants fe, still in france. Ive never met such a bunch of useless customer service people - you guys could give them a run for their money.  Thank goodness for swift cover. Hyundai couldnt organise a p**** up in a brewery - and thats being polite. I expect many of them are not of the camping breed!!! We're a funny lot, espicially when our tt  & bikes are enjoying an extended holiday in france. Hope the santa fe falls off the back of the lorry!!!!.

Even sadder I own an i30 too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! another 5 years of excellent customer service !!!!!

 

 



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Is it new ? any kind of warranty lisa4100? Do they Hyundai have their own recovery or is it yours?


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Lisa...........Sorry to read about your motoring dilemas

but your the one that bought a car where in the factory it was built in Korea the workers sit down at lunch time in the works canteen and tuck in to a Plate of BBQ Dog !

I'd still buy one over a Rusty Rover Mind You !



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Car is 3 years ,33,000 miles. All covered by 5 year waranty. The problem was lack of communiciation between UK and french dealer.

Car was recoverd in 40mins from campsite to nearest hyundai dealer.

Dealer said defo auto gear box failure. Needed new box - covered by waranty. Called us a taxi said hed get parts - off we went back to site. We had 12 days to get it sorted.

By day 5 and numerous calls to uk customer service and local uk dealer - finally auth was given - all a bit late by now as we had arranged hire car, repaitriation and a night in a luxury eurocamp van, night before departure.

the issue is th eparts were in france. garage had time and more thanability to do job- they were fab. Hyundai uk  did zero to sort the job.

They also did not understand that you can tput a tt away in wet and store for 2 weeks - so after watching weather we went for safe option to pack in the dry and spend night in van. paid by us.

our swift insurance arranged hire cars to move roof box ect up to our car in garage to pack it so we could take min luggage. we left site 3 days early and went home via dover as foot passangers. My husband and i spend days oon the phone working out packing, organising kids ect so it all went smoothly.

Hyundai said it was very unfortunate but if it had happended in the uk they would have lent cars sorted accomodaion ect ect, but not when out of uk. Even though the waranty is world wide etc and th esmall print is there - they just sya it mush have been very upsetting for us - but these things do happen!!!!

I dont think a grar box failure on a low milage fully serviced and cared for car is acceptable. I would just like them to say sorry and if anyone goes abroad again in a hyundai and has a problem it will be sorted.

Just awaiting retune should be 2moz. Dearler awaiting retun for repaire but i have lost all faith. We have towed it with tt over last 2 years but i dont imagine it will retun to france with us next year! just wondering what to buy next. I accept things go wrong but when a dealer shows you he has th ebits to fix the car - but he cant get someone in the uk to give the ok its a grim day.

Kids now have letters to send to managers to air their views.

 

Happy camping - good motoring - just beware of hyundai!



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Lisa, I think this can happen with most 'worldwide warranties'- I know I've heard of it happening before - apparently everything has to be sanctioned in the dealer's country before being passed on to the manufacturing country and then it all has to come back again along with the part for replacement.


Good luck with your search for a new car and if you are avioding Hyundai don't buy Kia - they're the same company

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15/9/2010 at 11:52am
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We have both a Rusty Rover (95 300tdi) and jap crap (99 shogun).......Shogun has had 2...yes 2....new cylinder heads in the last year (previous Shogun(a 95) also blew its head off on way down to Cornwall).Rusty(?) Rover....owned for 5 years.....never needed more than a bulb.hmmmmm.I do love my shogun,comfier ride,better spec,nicer looking (imo).Maybe we've just been unlucky....twice lol.But have been looking to trade her in for a TD5.

One opinion/observation of hubbys though (mechanic of 27 years,specialising in 4x4s) is try to avoid the very early TD5's.

Landcruisers are the mutts nuts....will have one when my numbers come up .



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Quote: Originally posted by Jendelwin on 15/9/2010

We have both a Rusty Rover (95 300tdi) and jap crap (99 shogun).......Shogun has had 2...yes 2....new cylinder heads in the last year (previous Shogun(a 95) also blew its head off on way down to Cornwall).Rusty(?) Rover....owned for 5 years.....never needed more than a bulb.hmmmmm.I do love my shogun,comfier ride,better spec,nicer looking (imo).Maybe we've just been unlucky....twice lol.But have been looking to trade her in for a TD5.

One opinion/observation of hubbys though (mechanic of 27 years,specialising in 4x4s) is try to avoid the very early TD5's.

Landcruisers are the mutts nuts....will have one when my numbers come up .




Your Shogun is a UK japcrap - the 2.5s had a habit of destroying their cylinder heads which was cured by a aftermarket head with rerouted cooling passages. 2.8s rarely blow their heads, in both cases though the majority of blown heads could have been avoided by paying more attention to the temperature gauge, major causes of over heating are blocked radiators (both inside and out) and water pump failure


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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 15/9/2010
Quote: Originally posted by Jendelwin on 15/9/2010

We have both a Rusty Rover (95 300tdi) and jap crap (99 shogun).......Shogun has had 2...yes 2....new cylinder heads in the last year (previous Shogun(a 95) also blew its head off on way down to Cornwall).Rusty(?) Rover....owned for 5 years.....never needed more than a bulb.hmmmmm.I do love my shogun,comfier ride,better spec,nicer looking (imo).Maybe we've just been unlucky....twice lol.But have been looking to trade her in for a TD5.

One opinion/observation of hubbys though (mechanic of 27 years,specialising in 4x4s) is try to avoid the very early TD5's.

Landcruisers are the mutts nuts....will have one when my numbers come up .




Your Shogun is a UK japcrap - the 2.5s had a habit of destroying their cylinder heads which was cured by a aftermarket head with rerouted cooling passages. 2.8s rarely blow their heads, in both cases though the majority of blown heads could have been avoided by paying more attention to the temperature gauge, major causes of over heating are blocked radiators (both inside and out) and water pump failure

Yep our present Shogun is a UK model (ie a Shogun not a Pajero),and it is the 2.8.They changed from 2.5 to 2.8 around 1994/5.So we've been unlucky enough to 2 x 2.8  Shoguns have heads blow . Incidentally,it had a new radiator and water pump on it shortly after we bought it,as hubby was trying to reassure me that another Shogun wouldn't blow its cylinder head (he was trying to shut me up lol).As for watching the temperature gauge,we were quite obsessive after our previous Shogun experience....absolutely no warning until it went.

I'm not having a go at Shoguns,I do really like them,but after our experience,won't be having another.Each to their own,as they say-I was only relaying our experience.



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