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Subject Topic: Glasgow Hobby 560 uk Stolen NOW FOUND
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02/9/2008 at 8:56am
 Location: South Yorkshire
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Before people start getting upset with the police on this, remember that Graham had just ONE case to deal with and NO paperwork to complete regarding his travells. Only when you have shadowed the police for a few days do you really understand how much time they are forced to spend behind a desk completing forms and reports - they are even less happy about it than us.

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02/9/2008 at 4:03pm
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Incredible - As others have already stated, I read your account and am inspired by your commitment to your family.

Apart from all the comments about 'should have' , ' could have' and 'would have', you are a living legend for finding the needle.

I for one have taken one simple message from your story, we should acknowledge the material effect, damage, stolen belongings, financial costs etc, but what should motivate us all is your primary goal, the recovery of what represents the important things in life. No-one has the right to take that away.



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03/9/2008 at 10:16pm
 Location: Newton Mearns Glasgow
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Hi Just another quick NO COMMENT in response to the Police TIME AND WORKLOAD.

It is not the Individual Police Officers who are to blame for any lack of urgency etc. Although it is very frustrating when you believe they are doing nothing. A couple of minor mistakes were certainly made in my case Re instructing Kings Lynn Police to act quickly on two occasions. No evidence apparently gathered when the Transit was Found nor I believe from its Driver by Searching the Van his Dwelling or other property for evidence namely, OUR Possessions. (Which they never took details of in any case)

The time it took the Police to respond to our initial phone call.

The speed in Getting the REG No onto the National Number Plate ID Cameras.

 And actually interviewing me to see if I had any further info or leads as the weeks progressed.

But we did speak to approximately 22 Officers over the period to one degree or another

Eight Constables, Four from Kings Lynn, Four from the Docks, Three Sergeants, Two New Caadets, A Lady Constable…

annnn Inspector and a Giipsy with a Pear Tree

1 1/2 hours I waited in the Travellers Camp for the Police  to Appear and help me release the Caravan. And that was a potentially dangerous situation.

 The Police are busy I know and there is loads of form filling but it does not take long to radio or phone around when a

26 feet Caravan goes missing being towed with an Old Transit Van Especially when you have its number plate, the Signwritting on the sides, The Make model and description of the Massive WHITE and BLUE Caravan with the BIG WORDS HOBBY & EXCELLENT EASY on the BACK, FRONT AND SIDES. Descriptions of 3 OF THE GUYS WHO TOOK IT AND THREE LARGE TRAVELLERS CAMPS 20 MINUTES AWAY FROM WHERE IT WAS TAKEN AT THE END OF THE A726 WHICH GOES PAST MY DOOR.

I did not initially have a clue where the Travelers were camped in Renfrewshire the same County AND SO I HEADED COMPLETELY IN THE WRONG DIRECTION OR I WOULD HAVE FOUND IT IN ITS FIRST PORT OF CALL.

But I can rest assured if I were to go into a Bank and Rob £20,000 + I would be expecting 5 - 10 years, The special Branch Helicopters, Dogs, CID and the national guard on my tail.

But a Caravan no that’s not a major priority, nor my safety. I should have dialled 999 when I went into the Camp. I spoke to one of the lady Police Officers who attended the camp and i said what kept you I have been here an hour and a half.

She said she had just got the call about 10 minutes ago and sped straight up to get me.

I think that they did not get the info from Glasgow quickly enough and cannot act till they know all about the case.

I could potentially have suffered some trouble but who was caring. Just as long as the forms are filled in correctly and nobody gets into trouble. As I say it was not the individual Police Officers you can criticise it’s the System which has gone mad with Red Tape, Form Filling Compliance and Race Relationship Regulations.

LOOK OUT!!

 HE'S BEHIND YOU!          OH NO HE'S NOT!            OH YES HE IS!

 



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04/9/2008 at 1:02pm
 Location: West Midlands
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Just got back from my hols so only just read all this!

So glad you got it back, well done, a lot of people including me, would of just left it up to the police to find (and they never would have) I would never go on a travellors site (would be too scared!) So its brill that you did all you did!!!

Now you are becoming a regular on here you will soon know all there is about insurance and hitch locks and wheel clamps! Lol Ready for your next van



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04/9/2008 at 1:08pm
 Location: Newton Mearns Glasgow
 Outfit: Hobby 560 UK Excellent Easy
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Hi Caravan released by Police £150 to pay for uplift and a new Electrical Hookup to buy too It never ends Will Post Piccys of Recovered Caravan and Damge

 

GG



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04/9/2008 at 1:23pm
 Location: South Yorkshire
 Outfit: Swift Challenger 490 & Discovery TD5
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The Metis Tracker has now got Sold Secure status - at just under £400 it looks more tempting now.

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04/9/2008 at 10:59pm
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Well done mate!

Why dont we have a stolen forum on here to help any others in a similar situation?



04/9/2008 at 11:02pm
 Location: North Lanarkshire
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Like this one Tam ?


05/9/2008 at 8:54am
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Fraham wrote: 

But I can rest assured if I were to go into a Bank and Rob £20,000 + I would be expecting 5 - 10 years, The special Branch Helicopters, Dogs, CID and the national guard on my tail. <

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Oddly enough, a nighbour had a brand new £20,0000 caravan stolen - and the police didn't even bother to come out.  Gave him a crime number, and that was that.

Well done for your persistance  (that should be 'very very' well done)

 



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05/9/2008 at 12:44pm
 Location: Milton Keynes
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Quote: Originally posted by cvrgraham on 03/9/2008

But a Caravan no that’s not a major priority, nor my safety. I should have dialled 999 when I went into the Camp. I spoke to one of the lady Police Officers who attended the camp and i said what kept you I have been here an hour and a half.


I am intrigued why you make a distinction with femaile police officers surely men and women in the police are all police officers?

I was also going to ask if any  of this has appeared in the local press as its usually the sort of thing they love.

David



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05/9/2008 at 1:13pm
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Well done, glad you got your precious van back.


05/9/2008 at 2:05pm
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Police Officers

Dont know about the Lady Police Officers term I just mentioned Lady Police Officers to paint a picture of who was there and to whom I spoke to and probaly to be polite.

I hope that's not inferring I am a sexist or anything like that. I think they are still called Mam or something like that when they address senior Female Police Officers within the force? May be wrong as I am not an expert. Perhaps someone knows better and what the ranks are actually within the Police and how you address each?

When I was a kid there were no Lady Police Officers around our district and probably beleived most were men and it was unusual to see a WPC which I think, they used to be officially called to differentiate one sex from another. I think that political correctness nowadays removed the WPC title and they are all Police Constables so I think you have a very valid point.

Sorry if I offended the female genders.

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10/9/2008 at 10:59pm
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They wouldn't realise if they were offended or not

***I am prepared for the backlash lol*****



11/9/2008 at 3:53pm
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Hi.

I have read this thread with great interest but.....(please excuse my ignorance)

Is your Hobby a legal  uk version i.e permitted width? If not, did they do him for towing an illegal van? or worse you?

Just a thought.

Noffy



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ALL Hobbys are legal and can be legally towed in Britain with the correct vehicle.  I think we have some one nit picking looking for an argument!.


11/9/2008 at 6:58pm
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The question isn't even relevant to the original post or circumstances!



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