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Booboo21

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I agree, I've bought 3 toyota celicas, all usable, for £60, £100 and £150, a Ford Sierra for £100 and several others for sub £200. Not any chance of that these days 🙄

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Given the glacial pace of battery development, I can only see electric cars being widespread for mainly local journeys....

I have been pondering though, what if you put batteries and motors in caravans which could operate in tandem with the vehicle motor, much like electric multiple unit (EMU) trains. EMU trains have electric motors at various intervals throughout the carriages for the non train saddos out there...

Of course that would mean serious electric infrastructure needed at campsites... 10 amp EHU would not suffice.

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Colin21

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Quote: Originally posted by backtocamping on 10/2/2022
Given the glacial pace of battery development, I can only see electric cars being widespread for mainly local journeys....

I have been pondering though, what if you put batteries and motors in caravans which could operate in tandem with the vehicle motor, much like electric multiple unit (EMU) trains. EMU trains have electric motors at various intervals throughout the carriages for the non train saddos out there... Of course that would mean serious electric infrastructure needed at campsites... 10 amp EHU would not suffice.

Yes, as a retired train driver I know what you mean. I think there is currently something going on in that direction with caravans, and it could work. However you are right, the infrastructure simply isn't there yet.

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Quote: Originally posted by backtocamping on 10/2/2022
Given the glacial pace of battery development, I can only see electric cars being widespread for mainly local journeys....

I have been pondering though, what if you put batteries and motors in caravans which could operate in tandem with the vehicle motor, much like electric multiple unit (EMU) trains. EMU trains have electric motors at various intervals throughout the carriages for the non train saddos out there... Of course that would mean serious electric infrastructure needed at campsites... 10 amp EHU would not suffice.

What like this.

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Battery technology is rapidly changing there are new types frequently being produced and the price is also dropping.
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Electricity supply may well become an issue as new houses must be carbon neutral very soon (all electric), we’ve just closed one of our last nuclear power stations up here so hydro is doing much of our base load. There was no wind blowing the turbines yesterday (we can’t store their power yet until the big battery farms are built) and it was very frosty last night. The EV batteries while getting more efficient do still need some rare materials that we have to import.
We live in interesting times indeed.

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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 11/2/2022

Quote: Originally posted by backtocamping on 10/2/2022
Given the glacial pace of battery development, I can only see electric cars being widespread for mainly local journeys....

I have been pondering though, what if you put batteries and motors in caravans which could operate in tandem with the vehicle motor, much like electric multiple unit (EMU) trains. EMU trains have electric motors at various intervals throughout the carriages for the non train saddos out there... Of course that would mean serious electric infrastructure needed at campsites... 10 amp EHU would not suffice.

What like this.

Exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of.

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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 11/2/2022
Electricity supply may well become an issue as new houses must be carbon neutral very soon (all electric), we’ve just closed one of our last nuclear power stations up here so hydro is doing much of our base load. There was no wind blowing the turbines yesterday (we can’t store their power yet until the big battery farms are built) and it was very frosty last night. The EV batteries while getting more efficient do still need some rare materials that we have to import.
We live in interesting times indeed.

Yes interesting times indeed. No hydro electric down here, and many of our power stations are gas powered, so I don't know how that is going to work. Not much point making houses all electric when that electricity is generated by coal or gas powered generating plant. Mention building a nuclear power station and everyone within a 200 mile radius of the proposed site throws a hissy-fit! In any case, with any new power station the time from first suggestion to actual completion, given that the initial consultation/red-tape stage often takes years, is normally decades. Hard to say how this one is going to pan out.

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Just like we were all supposed to have smart meters by now.....

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Quote: Originally posted by 22seaside on 11/2/2022
Just like we were all supposed to have smart meters by now.....

That was extended to 2024 due in part to covid now the target is 2025
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Quote: Originally posted by pnefan on 16/11/2020
Electric vehicles sound great....till you look into how the batteries are produced. They arent very green at all. Im begining to think it's all a con.

It’s the biggest con going, but thankfully people are slowly waking up to this.

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