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jonnmedds

22/6/2013 at 9:41pm
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We send HGV trailers for MOT's in this country so why not send caravans. I have no issues with taking mine for an MOT each year.

However, I do think the legislation should cover ALL trailers no matter how small. most caravanners/trailer towers will be ok but it will catch out the small percentage who tow dangerous caravans and trailers and risk all our safety.

Cunnie

22/6/2013 at 10:10pm
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Not be signing, Sorry,

Always seen a MOT as a minimum standard on ANY of my

equipment,wont make a blind bit of difference to me.

Only be concerned if your cutting corners!

Tho that said i like the idea of Bi-Yearly!

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bkb44b

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Wheel barrows have been known to cause accidents. I twisted my back with one due to the wheel failing due to overloading it. If it had been taxed, MOTd or BOTRd (barrow on the road)it might not had happened. I would also have been willing to pay to take it to a barrow testing station for an annual test and an EU sticker

neil and lena

23/6/2013 at 8:21am
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I'm all for it , might get some of these old sheds of the road being dragged by unsuitable cars .
Bring it on I say , and as for the cost of an MOT its not that expensive.
Long overdue IMO

cbreddie

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Quote: Originally posted by phil76 on 22/6/2013
Why do a lot of people assume that if you service your own caravan you are a hazard to other road users. I have always serviced my own vans not because I don't trust someone else to do it or to save money I do it because I can and really enjoy it and yes I commit the ultimate sin I check the gas system for leaks I have my own manometer I also use an endoscope to check for debris in the flu of the water heater etc the only thing I don't do is check the flue gases a friend does that for me ( costs me a brew and fig buiscuits )f i did find a gas leak or one of the gas appliances developed a fault i wouldnt hesitate in asking or paying someone with the appropriate skills to fix it i might be daft but not stupid I would have no fears in taking the van for an mot inspection although I don't agree with it as I said before if its the law then I would obey it

Nothing wrong with doing what you are doing, but there are many out there who DONT do ANY checks, so if they never checked, how can they be SAFE? It is these people who need to be sorted out.

And the thing is, I know of a caravan which is simply stunning inside and out, really looks the part, but the brake shoes on it are worn metal to metal, because it is going to cost over £100 to repair he wont have it done, he says that because he only uses the van once or twice a year then its not worth doing. Wonder if he will think that when he cant stop and runs a child over or rear ends someone?

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clbewi

23/6/2013 at 10:50am
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Quote: Originally posted by bkb44b on 22/6/2013
Wheel barrows have been known to cause accidents. I twisted my back with one due to the wheel failing due to overloading it. If it had been taxed, MOTd or BOTRd (barrow on the road)it might not had happened. I would also have been willing to pay to take it to a barrow testing station for an annual test and an EU sticker

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I would actually welcome finding out what defects(if any) my van had so that it could be repaired/replaced ASAP.
I feel the same about car owners who don't maintain their cars and/or flout mot and insurance rules.
I work beside a young guy, got caught no insurance and expired mot. Excuse to the cops, "I can't afford the insurance"
Lost his car,6 points 200 quid fine and his car got scrapped as well.
My view on this is if you can't afford to obey the law and keep your car at a reasonable standard,then don't drive at all.the same applies to caravanning. If you can't look after it, don't buy one

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agde

23/6/2013 at 3:20pm
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Having just read the some of the views on this topic
i think people testing would be a wiser option haha

clbewi

23/6/2013 at 5:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by agde on 23/6/2013
Having just read the some of the views on this topic
i think people testing would be a wiser option haha

I concur

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25/6/2013 at 12:00am
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Just spotted this post after writing a new post up on 'Life in General.' Thought it might add to the MOT debate.

Son and a friend were travelling 70 mph in the outer lane down the M3 on Sunday when a Caravan travelling in the middle lane lost it's wheel.
The wheel hit the central reservation barrier, bounced back and shot up over Son's friends car, they were shocked by how quickly it all happened and wondered if all those travelling behind were as lucky, they had no idea if the wheel landed safely.

Post last edited on 25/06/2013 12:51:27

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Dave11

25/6/2013 at 1:34am
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I would not have any objection at all to an MOT test on caravans. When I think of caravans of all ages and conditions weighing when loaded on average between 1 - 2 tonnes rolling down a motorway behind a car at 60 mph.

I do think however it should apply to all trailers braked or unbraked, except below a certain size or weight perhaps a simple certificate of safety would be better.
The reason I say this is because about a year ago I was on the motorway and a car in front was pulling a really old home made trailer, with wheels and bits which looked as if they had come from a scrapyard. The offside wheel started wobbling then came off, causing the axle to hit the road with sparks flying everywhere.

lunarvenus

25/6/2013 at 7:02am
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I also think that wrongly loaded outfits should have a fine or something.
Might be an inconvenience to a lot of people but I think the police should have a purge and pull in all caravans that look like it could be loaded incorrectly.
They do it with commercial vehicles all the time, they even check the emissions somethimes.
Trouble I think is that people measure the caravan nose weight which is OK but then hitch it to a fully loaded car, which in effect puts the car overloaded, the rear of the car low and the front of the caravan too low, equals a unsafe outfit .
Sorry I can't help it everyone, it just makes me cringe when I see a unsteady back end of a caravan infront of me.

saabman

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Looks like caravan compulsory test (MOT) is in, get lobbying your MP and MEP if you're bothered about it...

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/content/20130624FCS14305/3/html/Parliament-includes-motorbikes-in-updated-vehicle-check-rules

misterg

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I support mot for vans over 3 years. I have lookd at many used vans and hardly any had service history. My only exception would be for vans serviced every year by an approved workshop,I am sure it will soon be a nic little earner but safety is important. I would also like to see it include a damp check.

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David Stribley

04/7/2013 at 10:33am
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I keep my van in tip top condition. Depends how much it will be. how often it will need one.

LlaniDavis

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Extracted from above link:

Parliament called on Tuesday 2 July for updated rules on vehicle checks that improve road safety to extend regular inspections to motorbikes and to some trailers and caravans, making roadside checks on commercial vehicles more efficient and risk-based and streamlining the rules on vehicle documents.

"The technical requirements related to testing that we are introducing are of very high standards," said Werner Kuhn (EPP, DE), who is responsible for steering the plans on periodic inspections of vehicles and trailers through Parliament.

MEPs voted for mandatory checks on motorcycles in all member states from 2016 and on mopeds from 2018, unless a Commission study finds that testing of mopeds would be ineffective.

They also voted to extend mandatory checks to trailers weighing over two tonnes and to caravan trailers over 750 kg and backed existing standards for trailers over 3.5 tonnes.

Parliament wants to keep the current minimum requirement for initial roadworthiness checks for cars at four years, followed by tests every two years thereafter.

I wait with bated breath to see what rubbish Westminster make of it. Until then I shall ignore it.

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