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17/5/2007 at 9:58am
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 I have purchased a solar panel trickle charger to keep the battery topped up whilst in storage and to maintain the power for tracker system installed.

The unit comes with a 12v plug for use in a 12v socket. So if I plug it into 12v socket leave the battery switch left 'on' for the van when in storage to maintain the charge and ensuring all 12v appliances and lights etc were switched off would that be ok, or do I need to switch the factory installed caravan charger on as well?



17/5/2007 at 10:26am
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The unit comes with a 12v plug for use in a 12v socket. So if I plug it into 12v socket leave the battery switch left 'on' for the van when in storage to maintain the charge and ensuring all 12v appliances and lights etc were switched off would that be ok, or do I need to switch the factory installed caravan charger on as well?

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sorry for the confusion,are you not asking the battery to charge itself up by plugging it into a 12v socket in the caravan.the battery charger will only work from ,mains and from the car when the engine is running.you need to buy a second battery charge it then swop over after a few months.



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17/5/2007 at 11:14am
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Presumably you connect the solar panel directly to the battery to keep it charged????

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It does have crocodile clips to connect to the battery but it would be more convenient to use the 12v socket. Its a Sunsei SE-135  2W Solar Panel which can be used for cars, boats, caravans etc to keep the battery topped up/charged when not in use. 


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Yes, what you propose should work. However, if by turning your 12 volts on, you cause the battery to drain at all, the solar panel will probably not keep up with the drain. 2 watts is very small, 160 mA (Amps = Watts / Volts = 0.16 Watts) and even that is only during daylight. I suspect you will probably drain more out of the battery by leaving the 12 volts on than this panel wil put in. Maplin have an offer on at the moment for 13watt solar panels at £60 which would be more practical than this panel. If this is not an option, then I recommend disconnecting the leisure battery and clipping the crocodile clips directly to the battery.

BTW I just changed the panel you have for a 13 watt one from Maplin on my van. I might try your suggestion of plugging it into the 12 volt socket. Mine has no master switch to worry about anyway.


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this may help

http://www.selectsolar.co.uk/faq.php#faq9[:o)]



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09/6/2007 at 6:55pm
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Peardrops,

Your battery discharges for two reasons:

Internal discharge - this can be around 5%/week for a Leadacid battery, and gets worse as battery ages or as temperature increases.

External discharge - loads placed across the battery. This could be deliberate, ie your tracker or lighting etc, or accidental (the output resistanceof the charger).

Without getting too complicated, you really need to know the power consumption of your tracker unit and the internal discharge of your battery.

A quick search on the internet suggests your tracker probably uses around 10-15mA on standby.

Trickle charging current is typically used to replace internal discharge. This is typically 0.5mA to 1mA for a Lead acid battery. If your battery is 110AH  then you will need 55mA to 110mA to maintain the battery with no load.

Add the 10-15mA for your tracker and on a good condition battery you would probably need around 65-125mA.

However you say your solar panel is capable of 2Watts (165mA at 12V). This may be true on a bright sunny day with the panel pointing at the sun, but will probably be significantly less on average as Soundsdigiat points out earlier. The only way to be sure is connect it and monitor the battery voltage over a few weeks. Do this with the panel DISCONNECTED, and prefferably after the battery has settled for a few hours.

Battery voltage is a crude method of measureing battery charge status, but by checking it periodically you should not see a drop in voltage over a period of weeks. A guide is 12.7v for a 100% charged battery and 12.4V for a 75% charged battery. A cheap digital multimeter will do this easily.

Hope this helps

regards

PS The 12V socket should be connected to the battery directly. You should not switch on the charger.




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