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I am looking for something to use on the new Nissan XT and it seems that money isn't enough and that only the rubber spring inserts are available

Do people find that they are Ok and does it make the ride harder

I can't see that they pose a risk to life as mooted above

Quote: Originally posted by JohnG on 01/3/2008

I am looking for something to use on the new Nissan XT and it seems that money isn't enough and that only the rubber spring inserts are available

Do people find that they are Ok and does it make the ride harder

I can't see that they pose a risk to life as mooted above

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you can get these wot towsure sell from Halfords. I put them on a rover 2000, when we first started caravaning then i fitted them on another rover 600 series, only cos the back end sat low, not that there was anything wrong with the car, u dont need knew springs and coils as folk have said! they just stop the car from bottoming out, and makes the back end sit up a little. little harder of a ride though over the bumps, when the car is empty.

And these are SAFE why fit shockers???? they have nothing to do with the height, or the hardnest of the ride.

There doesn't seem to be either shock absorbers or M A D units available

I am waiting for a reply about M A D but it doesn't look hopeful after a week!!

The suspension is really good but its set up for a smooth ride and the car drops an inch under the equipment I carry (a few tools!) and if weight is taken from the caravan into the car to reduce noseweight it is still compressing the rear suspension

I will need to carry my wife's invalid buggy as well sometimes

The shocks are at 45deg to the suspension and the Nissan mechanic didn't advise spring assisted ones as it could affect the angle of the tyre to the road he thought

And they aren't available anyway

I have fitted M A D spring assisters and variable rate springs on previous vehicles but none seem to be available yet which is why I asked for comments on the Grayson type.

Quote: Originally posted by bobnsuz on 30/6/2007

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If you need to fit these to your car you want to change your vehicle as its not up to the job or you're overloading the nose weight and/or car or its a combination of both!

If you really must boost the suspension then the ONLY safe modification is to fit unprated springs and shock absorbers. Are your families lives not worth the extra cost?

Sorry but thats my opinion as an ex motor trade professional.

Bob

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Wow!!  Talk about a party political broadcast!  I was thinking of slipping these harmless looking rubber inserts into the rear springs of my mondeo, just to 'beef up' the back end.  But now i know the true horror that awaits me....  WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HALFORDS AND TOWSURE TO STOP STOCKING THESE THINGS, ITS'S OUR FAMILIES LIVES THEY'RE PLAYING WITH!!

Cheers Folks - Jamie ;)

Went out today to risk life and limb after fitting the Pyramid rubber inserts

The car seemed to roll a little less but ride quality seemed as good as ever

There  no other option seems available at the moment but if the Pyramid is Ok then it will be a cheap way of solving the problem

John, kep an eye on the springs as IMO with the assister inserts you are putting more stress on the bits of the coil that the assister is at.

was chatting to my trusty mechanic Wullie who said that he has fitted a few of the MAD units and they do work well, for me will wait and see how the easter trip goes, might fit them to the almera. good thing is that I have virtuallt no overhang on the back of the car and with the heavy kit (trolley jack and awning 13kg each) in the rear footwells that weight is basically in the centre of the car only mum's wheelchair in the boot (14kg) with a few bits and bobs. plus on the shakedown I couldnt get the noseweight of the van above 50kg adding another gas bottle will take that to 60 so i should be okay. limit is 75kg

Hi P & W

I had replacement springs on the old model XT when it was new  (anyone want any XT springs with delivery mileage?!)

I have to say that the ride on the new XT is not affected and it feels very much the same as the Picasso did with M A D supplementary springs

It rolls less on corners and has improved the feel without making the ride harsh

We are off to Blackpool with the van on Tuesday so that will be a good test

Hopefully the promised gale will have gone away