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27/7/2007 at 11:17am
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I store my van inside the base that I work at (great security, but difficult for some insurance companies to understand).  It is one of the perks of the job, but we get charged at the moment.

 

I was wondering if anyone else out there is being charged for their storage on MoD land, because I have some information that makes charging against the rules.

 

Mike



27/7/2007 at 12:12pm
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Hi Mike

Depends on what you term MOD land.

 



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27/7/2007 at 12:14pm
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Mine's on an RAF base which dont charge.


27/7/2007 at 1:27pm
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We have a friend who stores his 'van on the RAF base where he works - I don't know if he gets charged for the storage, but I do know that the insurance companies won't acknowledge that it's secure storage!!!



27/7/2007 at 1:31pm
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I'm not surprised that its not classed as "secure". Near where we are, at an RAF base, the chains on the crash gate were cut, and a number of caravans stolen.

Our "secure" storage is protected with CCTV, electric fencing, card only entry, 24 hour surveillance etc. What's more, we get 20% discount on our insurance.



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27/7/2007 at 1:41pm
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 The same with our storage compound too. 24 hr manned security, c.c.t.v. cameras, swipe card entry,sign in and sign out. I personaly wouldn't have it any other way. to protect our property.

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27/7/2007 at 4:22pm
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I know of a few who store there vans on fire stations, but as possibly with the MOD and certainly the Fire Service a few complaints have gone in asking why vans can be stored on site, and as a tax payer why they cannot store thier van too.. as after all they pay for the site and workers wages from taxes.

Before I get hit by a barrage of bullets or fire ( exscuse the pun ) it is a fact that complaints have been placed against the fire stations, not my view., just 18 years in the job,

 Perhaps a fair point, i dont know, happy to pay the fees of a secure compound. 



28/7/2007 at 8:57am
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We used to store our van in a dissused hanger on camp and were charged 60 a year for the maintenance of the building, eletricity etc, but this ended due to the building becoming unsafe, we did have permission to store it on the station carpark near to us with no charge but decided against this as it would have been next to the Sgts mess and the car park becomes very busy during TA weekends, so not a good option. The charges that are incured whilst storing on MOD land is often listed as maintenace charges which can cover a wide range of options from grass cutting, weeding, cleaning the area etc, even if they don't do it LOL It is up to the station/garissons comanders disscretion if charges are incurred, Same as not being allowed to store them on our driveways in our married quarter patch there are at least 5 or 6 that are there all the time and nobody has said a word to them, lot of officers houses round here though LOL. 

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28/7/2007 at 9:57am
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The base where I store mine make a charge which is payable to the welfare fund (so not to cover the costs etc) it is this type of charge that is not allowed.

Redz, I can understand your comments, but it is considered by the MoD to be a way in which they can be a better employer and actually only half of the storage must be used by actively employed people, but it must not be used tomake a profit as this would be a business and would be unfair on any local storage companies.

Mike


28/7/2007 at 11:22am
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I think that if you are in the lucky position to be able to store your caravan on any works property then you should be more than happy to pay a small fee for this privelige, of vourse even better if it goes to charity.

As far as MOD ground goes I recently saw an article on the telly whereby a young chap (non army) was staying with his Army friends and after a few drinks he stole a tank and ran over a car with it while his mate filmed it on his phone, perhaps that is one reason why the insurance company's do not consider it a secure caravan park.



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28/7/2007 at 1:26pm
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If you store the van at work, and do not pay, you are liable for benefit in kind tax just as if you had a company car or a company parking space, so that may be why they charge. 


28/7/2007 at 8:21pm
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Hi, I don't want it to sound like I expect something for nothing (although that's always nice). The reason behind my post is that there are rules governing this and the base where I work and store my van seem to be blatantly ignoring them.

I do expect to pay if there is a cost, but they have increased the charge to over £200 and there is no cost as this is outside storage (there is space for nearly 100 vans so figure out how much the welfare fund is raking in! - they are not short of cash either, their bank balance has the same numer of digits as a phone number.)

Fortunately I am not in the army so there are no tanks anywhere near the van storage, it is also well away from any accomodation so no problems there.

Mike



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Quote: Originally posted by Mike Collier on 28/7/2007

Hi, I don't want it to sound like I expect something for nothing (although that's always nice). The reason behind my post is that there are rules governing this and the base where I work and store my van seem to be blatantly ignoring them.

I do expect to pay if there is a cost, but they have increased the charge to over £200 and there is no cost as this is outside storage (there is space for nearly 100 vans so figure out how much the welfare fund is raking in! - they are not short of cash either, their bank balance has the same numer of digits as a phone number.)

Fortunately I am not in the army so there are no tanks anywhere near the van storage, it is also well away from any accomodation so no problems there.

Mike


Then I guess your answer is to move it to secure CASSOA Gold storage. We pay £180 per year and get 20% discount on insurance.


28/7/2007 at 11:38pm
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 hi, mike,

i left the army last year after 18 yrs service, most camps i served in had a seperate area for caravans, boats, trailers ect, the easiest option for your insurance worries would be to contact abacus (aldershot area) and see about getting your van covered along with your kit insurance.



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