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Subject Topic: Mondeo - Bailey Ranger Post Reply Post New Topic
14/10/2007 at 9:24pm
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I have a 2004 mondeo 2.0 diesel and a 2006 bailey ranger 2006 500/5. i think the caravan sits at an angle and is low at the tow ball and someone has suggested a "plate" to make it more level although i am not really too sure what he means or where to get it. can anyone help?


14/10/2007 at 10:08pm
 Location: Northumberland
 Outfit: Bailey Pageant Provence 5 Ford Kuga
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Hi Duncan.

When you say low at the tow ball do you mean the caravan is nose down?

If so this is the way it is meant to be.  Plates can be added to lower the ride height on the big 4x4 not to raise the nose height of a van on the back of a car.

Check the height od the hitch ball and has it been fitted correctly?

If the back of the car is low are the shockers ok.

Im sure someone will be long with the weights and measures in a mo.

ATB



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14/10/2007 at 10:09pm
 Location: N Yorkshire
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sounds like he means put a riser plate on to lift the towball which i thought was illegal nowadays ??.


14/10/2007 at 10:15pm
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I thought so too

Just checked weights of your car and van you may be on 1005 if not over duncan check out your car weight here

 



14/10/2007 at 10:34pm
 Location: Kilmarnock Ayrshire
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 Just to make a point shockers do not whatever their condition make a car sit high or low only dampen.  



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15/10/2007 at 12:16am
 Location: Bristol
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Hi Duncan , you could probably do with some Grayson spring assisters see Here note you should make sure you get the right size for your car , we found the spring assisters at our local caravan shop and have them fitted to our 4x4 .
Before doing anything , make sure you have the correct nose weight , and make sure what you measure it with is accurate .

Brian T is correct , shock absorbers do just that , they absorb the shock , springs control the height of the car .

atb

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15/10/2007 at 1:18pm
 Location: Swindon
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The ball on the towbar should be 17" at its centreline.  Our Ranger sits nose down too.  Also - our Ranger is nose heavy so weights have to be redistributed. The spare wheel has been fitted behind the axle on an Alko carrier and we only carry one small gas bottle.



15/10/2007 at 3:38pm
 Location: Kilmarnock Ayrshire
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The towball height on my 2006 mondeo sits at 18 inches before the caravan is hitched.



15/10/2007 at 5:01pm
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Thanks for the advise. yes i meant caravan is nose down.

Regarding the weights shielsy. 85% of the cars weight is 1270 Kgs and the maximum towing weight is 1800 Kgs. The MTPLM of the van is 1271 Kgs so thought that this is ok as long as i load sensibly? My dealer did do a compatability check for me (i had a laguna at the time of buying the van so had to change as that was too light!!)

I will check my noseweight asap.

 



15/10/2007 at 7:16pm
 Location: Swindon
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On our 550-6 - the noseweight was over 100kg with a gas bottle and spare wheel in the front locker.


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15/10/2007 at 7:20pm
 Location: Swindon
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From the CC Handbook
     "The coupling ball is 50 mm diameter and when measured from ground to ball centre should be between 350 and 420 mm (vehicle fully laden - but not with caravan attached) in accordance with BS AU 113c or ISO 1103."

350mm = 14"
420mm = 16.5"

   I stand corrected    



15/10/2007 at 7:30pm
 Location: North Yorkshire the bit at the bottom
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We tow our Compass with a 2.0 TDCi Mondeo, and has problems with the drop on the suspension. We replaced the springs with MAD replacements, and the difference is amazing! handling and stability are both vastly improved both solo and towing. I would recommend them for any tow vehicle... 'exactly what it says on the tin' and all that. Unfortunately the springs for the Mondeo are a complete replacement as opposed to a supplementary spring, and at £170 seem quite steep, but worth every single penny.


15/10/2007 at 8:14pm
 Location: Kent
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I have a 2004 2.0 TDci Zetec 130 estate, now with 103k on the clock. The car was 6mths old when I told the (independent) garage who service the car I was buying a caravan, they said that after towing the van twice the standard springs would sink and not come up again when loaded. They were right! They suggested that spring assisters would give a poor ride and sourced some 'heavy duty' rear springs at well under £100 cost which they said would be more progressive and now its excellent - the van ('98 Ranger 500/5&1198kg MTPLM) is slightly nose down with a 70-75kg noseweight on a standard Brink bar and Al-Ko towball. I have to put the spare wheel on the axle to keep the noseweight down, I also remove the pneumatic tyred jockey wheel due to the large diameter. There's still plenty of suspension travel with bikes on the roof rack and 40 or so bottles of wine in the boot on the return journey from France! 

The turbo died in France at Easter on 88k and the engine went in to limp mode on the Autoroute - not funny, thankfully it reset when I stopped & switched off but cost £800 when we returned, the clutch failed at 90k and cost £650 incl new flywheel. Off to Grin Low this weekend - hopefully without any breakdowns!



15/10/2007 at 11:49pm
 Location: N Yorkshire
 Outfit: Xc60 D5 Abbey Vogue
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towed with our 02 tddi hatch for almost 2 years and not really had an issue with the suspension other than france this year with 2 teenage lads in the back and the roofbox on it was lower than usual.most other times it sits slightly down with the van on but nothing major and the van is basically level.we carry 2 gas bottles and spare wheel in front locker.

its still on its original suspension at 108000 miles and will hopefully be ok til i get rid in a couple of years.




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